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Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2018, 11:12:24 AM »

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Trade anything and everything but keep Lowry and Derozan. Everything else can go and then make a run with that trio. Then try like heck to convince Kawhi that he can be an international star a la Vince Carter.

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Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2018, 11:56:23 AM »

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Without DeRozan, the Spurs aren't sending Kawhi to Toronto. Same with Boston and either Brown or Tatum. I just don't see Buford and Pop wanting a hodgepodge 5-6 player package without a star or future star included in the package. Spurs were very good last year without Kawhi. Their thinking in trading him is to get another star or future star, add that player to the current roster and compete.

Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2018, 12:00:12 PM »

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Without DeRozan, the Spurs aren't sending Kawhi to Toronto. Same with Boston and either Brown or Tatum. I just don't see Buford and Pop wanting a hodgepodge 5-6 player package without a star or future star included in the package. Spurs were very good last year without Kawhi. Their thinking in trading him is to get another star or future star, add that player to the current roster and compete.

Agree.

Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2018, 12:11:09 PM »

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Without DeRozan, the Spurs aren't sending Kawhi to Toronto. Same with Boston and either Brown or Tatum. I just don't see Buford and Pop wanting a hodgepodge 5-6 player package without a star or future star included in the package. Spurs were very good last year without Kawhi. Their thinking in trading him is to get another star or future star, add that player to the current roster and compete.

OG is probably the most interesting prospect that has come up in trade rumors that is not named Brown or Tatum. I'd take OG before Fultz and Saric. This kid is the exact type of player than can stay on the court in the playoffs and make a difference. Imagine a Murray-Walker-OG lineup defensively.

IF you include Siakim, who is basically a younger Mbouh a Moute, in the deal, it makes it even sweeter. Powell, who would have to be included for salary reasons, has had some good moments too and is pretty versatile.

Then, if you include firsts in 2020 and 2022, there is a chance that the Raptors implode before then with Leonard leaving and Lowry fading in effectiveness. Those picks could be really good.

On top of that, the Raptors have a trade exemption that could absorb all of Danny Green's contract, which frees the Spurs to pursue the youth movement.

Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2018, 12:27:43 PM »

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Without DeRozan, the Spurs aren't sending Kawhi to Toronto. Same with Boston and either Brown or Tatum. I just don't see Buford and Pop wanting a hodgepodge 5-6 player package without a star or future star included in the package. Spurs were very good last year without Kawhi. Their thinking in trading him is to get another star or future star, add that player to the current roster and compete.

OG is probably the most interesting prospect that has come up in trade rumors that is not named Brown or Tatum. I'd take OG before Fultz and Saric. This kid is the exact type of player than can stay on the court in the playoffs and make a difference. Imagine a Murray-Walker-OG lineup defensively.

IF you include Siakim, who is basically a younger Mbouh a Moute, in the deal, it makes it even sweeter. Powell, who would have to be included for salary reasons, has had some good moments too and is pretty versatile.

Then, if you include firsts in 2020 and 2022, there is a chance that the Raptors implode before then with Leonard leaving and Lowry fading in effectiveness. Those picks could be really good.

On top of that, the Raptors have a trade exemption that could absorb all of Danny Green's contract, which frees the Spurs to pursue the youth movement.

Yea it is one of those packages that will get blasted in the national media, but ends up working very well for the Spurs overtime.

Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2018, 12:37:50 PM »

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Without DeRozan, the Spurs aren't sending Kawhi to Toronto. Same with Boston and either Brown or Tatum. I just don't see Buford and Pop wanting a hodgepodge 5-6 player package without a star or future star included in the package. Spurs were very good last year without Kawhi. Their thinking in trading him is to get another star or future star, add that player to the current roster and compete.

OG is probably the most interesting prospect that has come up in trade rumors that is not named Brown or Tatum. I'd take OG before Fultz and Saric. This kid is the exact type of player than can stay on the court in the playoffs and make a difference. Imagine a Murray-Walker-OG lineup defensively.

IF you include Siakim, who is basically a younger Mbouh a Moute, in the deal, it makes it even sweeter. Powell, who would have to be included for salary reasons, has had some good moments too and is pretty versatile.

Then, if you include firsts in 2020 and 2022, there is a chance that the Raptors implode before then with Leonard leaving and Lowry fading in effectiveness. Those picks could be really good.

On top of that, the Raptors have a trade exemption that could absorb all of Danny Green's contract, which frees the Spurs to pursue the youth movement.


I like a deal like this for SAS a lot more than getting DeRozan.

Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2018, 01:21:17 PM »

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Without DeRozan, the Spurs aren't sending Kawhi to Toronto. Same with Boston and either Brown or Tatum. I just don't see Buford and Pop wanting a hodgepodge 5-6 player package without a star or future star included in the package. Spurs were very good last year without Kawhi. Their thinking in trading him is to get another star or future star, add that player to the current roster and compete.

Yea I think OG is pretty undervalued here cause he wasn't hyped going into the draft. However he wasn't even really expected to be in the raptors rotation last year as a 20 year old and flashed some pretty good NBA ready skills.

OG is probably the most interesting prospect that has come up in trade rumors that is not named Brown or Tatum. I'd take OG before Fultz and Saric. This kid is the exact type of player than can stay on the court in the playoffs and make a difference. Imagine a Murray-Walker-OG lineup defensively.

IF you include Siakim, who is basically a younger Mbouh a Moute, in the deal, it makes it even sweeter. Powell, who would have to be included for salary reasons, has had some good moments too and is pretty versatile.

Then, if you include firsts in 2020 and 2022, there is a chance that the Raptors implode before then with Leonard leaving and Lowry fading in effectiveness. Those picks could be really good.

On top of that, the Raptors have a trade exemption that could absorb all of Danny Green's contract, which frees the Spurs to pursue the youth movement.


I like a deal like this for SAS a lot more than getting DeRozan.

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He's mad. Looks like Kawhi to the Raptors is happening.

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Hereís Woj. Looks like Derozan included.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019497989008576513?s=21
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He's mad. Looks like Kawhi to the Raptors is happening.


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Hopefully Spurs can snag a few more decent players and thin them out.

Raptors are getting better, but risky move.

Won 59 games and sending a top-25ish player for a top-3, but this time next year may have absolutely nothing to show for it.
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Cs job just got harder. But thatís okay.

Such a big risk for Toronto.

Also, I wonder how they round out their roster, and what quality FAs are left.
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Re: Kawhi Leonard to Raptors?
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2018, 04:55:37 AM »

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Without DeRozan, the Spurs aren't sending Kawhi to Toronto. Same with Boston and either Brown or Tatum. I just don't see Buford and Pop wanting a hodgepodge 5-6 player package without a star or future star included in the package. Spurs were very good last year without Kawhi. Their thinking in trading him is to get another star or future star, add that player to the current roster and compete.

OG is probably the most interesting prospect that has come up in trade rumors that is not named Brown or Tatum. I'd take OG before Fultz and Saric. This kid is the exact type of player than can stay on the court in the playoffs and make a difference. Imagine a Murray-Walker-OG lineup defensively.

IF you include Siakim, who is basically a younger Mbouh a Moute, in the deal, it makes it even sweeter. Powell, who would have to be included for salary reasons, has had some good moments too and is pretty versatile.

Then, if you include firsts in 2020 and 2022, there is a chance that the Raptors implode before then with Leonard leaving and Lowry fading in effectiveness. Those picks could be really good.

On top of that, the Raptors have a trade exemption that could absorb all of Danny Green's contract, which frees the Spurs to pursue the youth movement.


I like a deal like this for SAS a lot more than getting DeRozan.

This.

Please give them Derozan and OG. Spurs are good to root for.

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http://abc7.com/sports/raptors-spurs-finalizing-kawhi-leonard-trade-involving-demar-derozan/3780676/

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Leonard and DeRozan are both aware that an agreement could be imminent, and neither is expressing enthusiasm for the deal, league sources said.