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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
« Reply #465 on: July 18, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »

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Memphis-Sacramento trade. Wonder how this will affect our future drafts.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019245696170377219

We should be more concerned about what the Kings might do with the cap room they just opened up, especially w/r/t Smart (though they'll probably go after Capela first).
they only opened up like a million dollars though right?

As I heard on a podcast yesterday, this deal opens up almost exactly the amount of space the kings would need to absorb Ryan Anderson's contract.

If the Kings stretched Labissierre (or Mason, or anyone else), they could completely receive Anderson into their cap space, which gives the Rockets a 20 million dollar trade exemption. The Rockets would need to send back at least one first round pick.

The Kings get a legit shooter to help stretch the floor and make the game easier for Fox, Hield, Giles, and Bagley. They also get a first round pick.

The Rockets get the space to offer Capella a max. They weren't afraid of the luxury tax, but this way they are paying the luxury tax for worth players. If the Rockets timed the signings correctly, they could still use a full MLE and Biannual exemption before they resign Capella, and then fill out their roster with minimum contracts.

If they were able to offer Melo more money, it might make the buy-out process smoother in OKC (or Brooklyn if he gets traded with a first for Crabbe).

1. Traded Ryan Anderson and Rockets 2019 First Round Pick for protected Kings 2nd
2. Waived Zhou Qi in 2018-19 with $ 0 remaining over 0 year(s)
3. Renounced $ 3,948,000 2018-19 cap hold for Tarik Black
4. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Joe Johnson
5. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
6. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for Markel Brown
7. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for R.J. Hunter
8. Signed Carmelo Anthony to 1yrs/$ 8,641,000 contract starting in 2018-19 using Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception
9. Signed Clint Capela to 4yrs/$ 114,093,280 contract starting in 2018-19 using Larry Bird Exception
10. Signed James Ennis to 2yrs/$ 3,025,202 contract starting in 2018-19 using 4-Year Vet. Minimum Exception
11. Signed Michael Carter-Williams to 1yrs/$ 1,512,601 contract starting in 2018-19 using 2-Year Vet. Minimum Exception

Two years of Andersonís contract is going to require more than a very late 1st. Thatís a two-pick contract, which is why Houston doesnít want to pay to move it.

We'll see. Anderson is not a completely unuseful player to a young rebuilding team.

Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
« Reply #466 on: July 18, 2018, 10:37:22 AM »

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Memphis-Sacramento trade. Wonder how this will affect our future drafts.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019245696170377219

We should be more concerned about what the Kings might do with the cap room they just opened up, especially w/r/t Smart (though they'll probably go after Capela first).
they only opened up like a million dollars though right?

As I heard on a podcast yesterday, this deal opens up almost exactly the amount of space the kings would need to absorb Ryan Anderson's contract.

If the Kings stretched Labissierre (or Mason, or anyone else), they could completely receive Anderson into their cap space, which gives the Rockets a 20 million dollar trade exemption. The Rockets would need to send back at least one first round pick.

The Kings get a legit shooter to help stretch the floor and make the game easier for Fox, Hield, Giles, and Bagley. They also get a first round pick.

The Rockets get the space to offer Capella a max. They weren't afraid of the luxury tax, but this way they are paying the luxury tax for worth players. If the Rockets timed the signings correctly, they could still use a full MLE and Biannual exemption before they resign Capella, and then fill out their roster with minimum contracts.

If they were able to offer Melo more money, it might make the buy-out process smoother in OKC (or Brooklyn if he gets traded with a first for Crabbe).

1. Traded Ryan Anderson and Rockets 2019 First Round Pick for protected Kings 2nd
2. Waived Zhou Qi in 2018-19 with $ 0 remaining over 0 year(s)
3. Renounced $ 3,948,000 2018-19 cap hold for Tarik Black
4. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Joe Johnson
5. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
6. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for Markel Brown
7. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for R.J. Hunter
8. Signed Carmelo Anthony to 1yrs/$ 8,641,000 contract starting in 2018-19 using Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception
9. Signed Clint Capela to 4yrs/$ 114,093,280 contract starting in 2018-19 using Larry Bird Exception
10. Signed James Ennis to 2yrs/$ 3,025,202 contract starting in 2018-19 using 4-Year Vet. Minimum Exception
11. Signed Michael Carter-Williams to 1yrs/$ 1,512,601 contract starting in 2018-19 using 2-Year Vet. Minimum Exception

Two years of Andersonís contract is going to require more than a very late 1st. Thatís a two-pick contract, which is why Houston doesnít want to pay to move it.

I didn't get this post either. Are you saying he's worth taking on for two picks, or all of the other teams feel this way too. I feel that a rebuilding team could take on that salary for the short term.

Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
« Reply #467 on: July 18, 2018, 10:46:48 AM »

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Memphis-Sacramento trade. Wonder how this will affect our future drafts.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019245696170377219

We should be more concerned about what the Kings might do with the cap room they just opened up, especially w/r/t Smart (though they'll probably go after Capela first).
they only opened up like a million dollars though right?

As I heard on a podcast yesterday, this deal opens up almost exactly the amount of space the kings would need to absorb Ryan Anderson's contract.

If the Kings stretched Labissierre (or Mason, or anyone else), they could completely receive Anderson into their cap space, which gives the Rockets a 20 million dollar trade exemption. The Rockets would need to send back at least one first round pick.

The Kings get a legit shooter to help stretch the floor and make the game easier for Fox, Hield, Giles, and Bagley. They also get a first round pick.

The Rockets get the space to offer Capella a max. They weren't afraid of the luxury tax, but this way they are paying the luxury tax for worth players. If the Rockets timed the signings correctly, they could still use a full MLE and Biannual exemption before they resign Capella, and then fill out their roster with minimum contracts.

If they were able to offer Melo more money, it might make the buy-out process smoother in OKC (or Brooklyn if he gets traded with a first for Crabbe).

1. Traded Ryan Anderson and Rockets 2019 First Round Pick for protected Kings 2nd
2. Waived Zhou Qi in 2018-19 with $ 0 remaining over 0 year(s)
3. Renounced $ 3,948,000 2018-19 cap hold for Tarik Black
4. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Joe Johnson
5. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
6. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for Markel Brown
7. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for R.J. Hunter
8. Signed Carmelo Anthony to 1yrs/$ 8,641,000 contract starting in 2018-19 using Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception
9. Signed Clint Capela to 4yrs/$ 114,093,280 contract starting in 2018-19 using Larry Bird Exception
10. Signed James Ennis to 2yrs/$ 3,025,202 contract starting in 2018-19 using 4-Year Vet. Minimum Exception
11. Signed Michael Carter-Williams to 1yrs/$ 1,512,601 contract starting in 2018-19 using 2-Year Vet. Minimum Exception

Two years of Andersonís contract is going to require more than a very late 1st. Thatís a two-pick contract, which is why Houston doesnít want to pay to move it.

We'll see. Anderson is not a completely unuseful player to a young rebuilding team.

Which would be fine if he were on a 1-year deal, but two years at $20+ million per year, and he plays the same position as your #2 overall pick?  The Kings would be better served to offer Capela a ton of money and see what happens, and then getting something for WCS on the trade market.
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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
« Reply #468 on: July 18, 2018, 10:49:49 AM »

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Memphis-Sacramento trade. Wonder how this will affect our future drafts.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019245696170377219

We should be more concerned about what the Kings might do with the cap room they just opened up, especially w/r/t Smart (though they'll probably go after Capela first).
they only opened up like a million dollars though right?

As I heard on a podcast yesterday, this deal opens up almost exactly the amount of space the kings would need to absorb Ryan Anderson's contract.

If the Kings stretched Labissierre (or Mason, or anyone else), they could completely receive Anderson into their cap space, which gives the Rockets a 20 million dollar trade exemption. The Rockets would need to send back at least one first round pick.

The Kings get a legit shooter to help stretch the floor and make the game easier for Fox, Hield, Giles, and Bagley. They also get a first round pick.

The Rockets get the space to offer Capella a max. They weren't afraid of the luxury tax, but this way they are paying the luxury tax for worth players. If the Rockets timed the signings correctly, they could still use a full MLE and Biannual exemption before they resign Capella, and then fill out their roster with minimum contracts.

If they were able to offer Melo more money, it might make the buy-out process smoother in OKC (or Brooklyn if he gets traded with a first for Crabbe).

1. Traded Ryan Anderson and Rockets 2019 First Round Pick for protected Kings 2nd
2. Waived Zhou Qi in 2018-19 with $ 0 remaining over 0 year(s)
3. Renounced $ 3,948,000 2018-19 cap hold for Tarik Black
4. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Joe Johnson
5. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
6. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for Markel Brown
7. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for R.J. Hunter
8. Signed Carmelo Anthony to 1yrs/$ 8,641,000 contract starting in 2018-19 using Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception
9. Signed Clint Capela to 4yrs/$ 114,093,280 contract starting in 2018-19 using Larry Bird Exception
10. Signed James Ennis to 2yrs/$ 3,025,202 contract starting in 2018-19 using 4-Year Vet. Minimum Exception
11. Signed Michael Carter-Williams to 1yrs/$ 1,512,601 contract starting in 2018-19 using 2-Year Vet. Minimum Exception

Two years of Andersonís contract is going to require more than a very late 1st. Thatís a two-pick contract, which is why Houston doesnít want to pay to move it.

I didn't get this post either. Are you saying he's worth taking on for two picks, or all of the other teams feel this way too. I feel that a rebuilding team could take on that salary for the short term.

Iím saying that $20 million of cap space is worth about a late 1st, and as the Kings would be giving up two years of that, it should be 2 1sts.  Teams donít like tying up cap space for multiple years in advance.
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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
« Reply #469 on: July 18, 2018, 11:09:02 AM »

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Memphis-Sacramento trade. Wonder how this will affect our future drafts.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019245696170377219

We should be more concerned about what the Kings might do with the cap room they just opened up, especially w/r/t Smart (though they'll probably go after Capela first).
they only opened up like a million dollars though right?

As I heard on a podcast yesterday, this deal opens up almost exactly the amount of space the kings would need to absorb Ryan Anderson's contract.

If the Kings stretched Labissierre (or Mason, or anyone else), they could completely receive Anderson into their cap space, which gives the Rockets a 20 million dollar trade exemption. The Rockets would need to send back at least one first round pick.

The Kings get a legit shooter to help stretch the floor and make the game easier for Fox, Hield, Giles, and Bagley. They also get a first round pick.

The Rockets get the space to offer Capella a max. They weren't afraid of the luxury tax, but this way they are paying the luxury tax for worth players. If the Rockets timed the signings correctly, they could still use a full MLE and Biannual exemption before they resign Capella, and then fill out their roster with minimum contracts.

If they were able to offer Melo more money, it might make the buy-out process smoother in OKC (or Brooklyn if he gets traded with a first for Crabbe).

1. Traded Ryan Anderson and Rockets 2019 First Round Pick for protected Kings 2nd
2. Waived Zhou Qi in 2018-19 with $ 0 remaining over 0 year(s)
3. Renounced $ 3,948,000 2018-19 cap hold for Tarik Black
4. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Joe Johnson
5. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
6. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for Markel Brown
7. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for R.J. Hunter
8. Signed Carmelo Anthony to 1yrs/$ 8,641,000 contract starting in 2018-19 using Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception
9. Signed Clint Capela to 4yrs/$ 114,093,280 contract starting in 2018-19 using Larry Bird Exception
10. Signed James Ennis to 2yrs/$ 3,025,202 contract starting in 2018-19 using 4-Year Vet. Minimum Exception
11. Signed Michael Carter-Williams to 1yrs/$ 1,512,601 contract starting in 2018-19 using 2-Year Vet. Minimum Exception

Two years of Andersonís contract is going to require more than a very late 1st. Thatís a two-pick contract, which is why Houston doesnít want to pay to move it.

I didn't get this post either. Are you saying he's worth taking on for two picks, or all of the other teams feel this way too. I feel that a rebuilding team could take on that salary for the short term.

Iím saying that $20 million of cap space is worth about a late 1st, and as the Kings would be giving up two years of that, it should be 2 1sts.  Teams donít like tying up cap space for multiple years in advance.

I get your point, but I think the Kings know they aren't a FA destination. Ryan Anderson is a helpful player, and maybe one of the better ways they could use that space.

Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
« Reply #470 on: July 18, 2018, 11:52:05 AM »

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Memphis-Sacramento trade. Wonder how this will affect our future drafts.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019245696170377219

We should be more concerned about what the Kings might do with the cap room they just opened up, especially w/r/t Smart (though they'll probably go after Capela first).
they only opened up like a million dollars though right?

As I heard on a podcast yesterday, this deal opens up almost exactly the amount of space the kings would need to absorb Ryan Anderson's contract.

If the Kings stretched Labissierre (or Mason, or anyone else), they could completely receive Anderson into their cap space, which gives the Rockets a 20 million dollar trade exemption. The Rockets would need to send back at least one first round pick.

The Kings get a legit shooter to help stretch the floor and make the game easier for Fox, Hield, Giles, and Bagley. They also get a first round pick.

The Rockets get the space to offer Capella a max. They weren't afraid of the luxury tax, but this way they are paying the luxury tax for worth players. If the Rockets timed the signings correctly, they could still use a full MLE and Biannual exemption before they resign Capella, and then fill out their roster with minimum contracts.

If they were able to offer Melo more money, it might make the buy-out process smoother in OKC (or Brooklyn if he gets traded with a first for Crabbe).

1. Traded Ryan Anderson and Rockets 2019 First Round Pick for protected Kings 2nd
2. Waived Zhou Qi in 2018-19 with $ 0 remaining over 0 year(s)
3. Renounced $ 3,948,000 2018-19 cap hold for Tarik Black
4. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Joe Johnson
5. Renounced $ 1,512,601 2018-19 cap hold for Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
6. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for Markel Brown
7. Renounced $ 838,464 2018-19 cap hold for R.J. Hunter
8. Signed Carmelo Anthony to 1yrs/$ 8,641,000 contract starting in 2018-19 using Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception
9. Signed Clint Capela to 4yrs/$ 114,093,280 contract starting in 2018-19 using Larry Bird Exception
10. Signed James Ennis to 2yrs/$ 3,025,202 contract starting in 2018-19 using 4-Year Vet. Minimum Exception
11. Signed Michael Carter-Williams to 1yrs/$ 1,512,601 contract starting in 2018-19 using 2-Year Vet. Minimum Exception

Two years of Andersonís contract is going to require more than a very late 1st. Thatís a two-pick contract, which is why Houston doesnít want to pay to move it.

I didn't get this post either. Are you saying he's worth taking on for two picks, or all of the other teams feel this way too. I feel that a rebuilding team could take on that salary for the short term.

Iím saying that $20 million of cap space is worth about a late 1st, and as the Kings would be giving up two years of that, it should be 2 1sts.  Teams donít like tying up cap space for multiple years in advance.

I get your point, but I think the Kings know they aren't a FA destination. Ryan Anderson is a helpful player, and maybe one of the better ways they could use that space.

They could still get a 1st for an expiring from a tax team this year and have the space to do so again next year (either from a tax team or a team like the Lakers looking to create space).  When the Lakers were trying to move Deng this summer, it was reportedly (from Bobby Marks) going to cost them two 1sts.  Anderson is more useful than Deng, but also costs even more.

If youíre a team looking to move an 8-figure contract to reduce or eliminate your tax bill, you have one potential trade partner, and thatís Sacramento.  Meanwhile Sacramento has about 6 teams that would like to avail themselves of Sacramentoís cap space, most or all of whom could offer a better pick than Houston, and most or all of whom could offer an expiring instead of someone under contract for two years.  The Kings have the leverage, and also have no need to make a move immediately ó they can wait until the trade deadline.  If Anderson is the best they can do, theyíve really made a mistake.
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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
« Reply #471 on: July 18, 2018, 02:40:50 PM »

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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
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Not sure if this is out there but the full protections on the Denver pick to Brooklyn in the Arthur/Faried deal = top-12 through 2024, then converts to 2024 & 2025 seconds @BBallInsiders

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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
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Sources: Free agent Yogi Ferrell has agreed to a two-year, $5.3M deal to re-sign with the Dallas Mavericks. Ferrell was promised the backup shooting guard position to start next season.

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Second season of Ferrell's Mavericks deal includes a trigger date on July 7, league sources said.

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Sources: Dirk Nowitzki and the Mavericks plan to finalize a one-year, $5 million deal. Neither side appears in rush to sign the contract. Nowitzki is a Maverick for life, of course.

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Pistons hire Tim Grgurich, Micah Nori as assistant coaches

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Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
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Wow, Melo to Hawks, to be waived. ATL also gets lottery protected first, which would convert to two seconds.

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