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Quote from: Bucketgetter on April 22, 2018, 04:21:42 AMHas Gordon Hayward been on the bench during the playoffs?Hayward is out of town doing specific rehab for his injury.Not sure if those who excuse Irving are younger fans who have a different set of values than what I have - and what Celtics through franchise history have had - but the team comes first and he is supposed to be the main leader of this team. That is why he said he wanted to leave Cleveland, so he could be "The Man" leading his own team. He ain't leading.My so-called "Bias" that someone mentioned is based on specific observed behavior during this season, not because I had some opinion about the guy's personality while he was in Cleveland.
Has Gordon Hayward been on the bench during the playoffs?
I'm sure it has everything to do with his knee, I doubt he's taking personal time.As someone else said quite well, expecting these guys to truly bleed green in the 2018 landscape is idealism.The purest Celtic I've seen in recent memory was in fact traded for Irving. You can't have it both ways, demand loyalty after shipping out the man who was willing it lay it all down for the team. Kyrie is an upgrade, it was the right move, but IT4 was definitely more from the mold of a bygone era.
Kyrie Irving's absence from games is an insult to the team. Lots of people on here continue to make excuses and give reasons why it is OK. When I read about yet another of his "group text messages" before home game vs Bucks and then our players praising this example of "great leadership" because it helped the young guys know what to expect, I thought how ridiculous and inexcusable that was and what an insult to the team and the Celtics organization that it represented. My opinion.Marcus Smart cares so much that he travels with the team to Milwaukee to sit on the bench and support his teammates, even though he has no chance to play in Games 3 & 4. Yet Irving can't even make it to the Garden for Game 2 - though I suppose his grand gesture of sitting on the bench for the 1st half of Game 1 was supposed to impress everyone.Yes, I know Garnett would watch from the locker room, same with Shaq, maybe Bird did sometimes, but they were right there at the game and with their teammates before they took the floor, at halftime and as they came off the floor. Garnett was always on the bench for playoff games, especially in '09 when he couldn't play because of his injury.I worried about Kyrie Irving's mentality and dedication to his team from Day 1. He hasn't done much to ease my concerns ........................... on another note, I have yet to see the guy fight over the top of a screen all season. As Charlie Scott would say, "Act like a Celtic" !!!!
So much pettiness. Kyrie doesn't owe you anything. You people are too quick to judge without knowing anything, at all, about their circumstances. His teammates are okay with it, his coach, his GM. I for one, prefer the injured players to be at home, or somewhere resting or rehabbing. You mention you've been rebutted tons of times, yet you still come here with the same whining. No one owes you an explanation, and you've continuously shown your bias. We do not need the same thing over and over again.
Whatever crushes individuality is despotism, by whatever name it may be called and whether it professes to be enforcing the will of God or the injunctions of men.
I think it makes sense to have Smart there, he might be back in a game 7 against this team if needed. He needs to be watching and taking mental notes of how he can impact the game. Gordon, Kylie, Theis are all done for the season, and it really doesn't matter if they are there or not.