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Mirotic re-signs with Chicago
« on: September 24, 2017, 04:23:57 PM »

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2 years, $27 million.  The second year is a team option.

The only Restricted free agent left on the board is JaMychal Green.

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Re: Mirotic re-signs with Chicago
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2017, 04:41:33 PM »

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The only Restricted free agent left on the board is JaMychal Green.

I think MEM is working on him now too, a two year deal I read.

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2017, 05:18:02 PM »

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Much more money than I was thinking. Good contract compared to his irregular performance.

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2017, 05:24:18 PM »

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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/912042340633673730

I find these trade restrictions to be pretty funny.  Ron Baker has one too. 
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/912042340633673730

I find these trade restrictions to be pretty funny.  Ron Baker has one too. 

There's a good and logical reason for them, though. These players will lose their Bird Rights status if they are traded to a new team. That means their new team cannot go over the salary cap to sign the player and cannot offer full 8% raises, nor a 5 year contract.

That a big deal for some players, thus why the player has trade veto power.

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2017, 06:28:05 PM »

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$13.5m per for 2 years is a decent contract for Mirotic and the Bulls. Maybe a bit of an overpay based on last year, but a contract he can definitely earn if he becomes more consistent. So far in his career there have been more bad games than good games, but if the good games become more frequent it's a fair salary.

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2017, 06:32:01 PM »

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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/912042340633673730

I find these trade restrictions to be pretty funny.  Ron Baker has one too. 

There's a good and logical reason for them, though. These players will lose their Bird Rights status if they are traded to a new team. That means their new team cannot go over the salary cap to sign the player and cannot offer full 8% raises, nor a 5 year contract.

That a big deal for some players, thus why the player has trade veto power.

Interesting, didn't know that.  Sounds like it benefits both parties then.  TP.
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"As far as playing, I didn't care who guarded me - red, yellow, black. I just didn't want a white guy guarding me, because it's disrespect to my game."
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2017, 09:55:53 PM »

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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/912042340633673730

I find these trade restrictions to be pretty funny.  Ron Baker has one too. 

There's a good and logical reason for them, though. These players will lose their Bird Rights status if they are traded to a new team. That means their new team cannot go over the salary cap to sign the player and cannot offer full 8% raises, nor a 5 year contract.

That a big deal for some players, thus why the player has trade veto power.

Does that mean we can't go over the cap to resign Kyrie?

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2017, 10:18:23 PM »

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Bulls now have R Lopez, Mirotic, Markannen, Portis, Felicio, and Zipser all at the 4/5 spots. I wonder if they're a trade candidate for Cs to get a real big. Salary matching could be problematic though. Morris and Yabu plus small salaries could get you in R Lopez range. Or Ojeleye and Nader/Larkin for Portis maybe (seems like Bulls are light at the 3 spot). Just a thought.

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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2017, 11:01:08 PM »

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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/912042340633673730

I find these trade restrictions to be pretty funny.  Ron Baker has one too. 

There's a good and logical reason for them, though. These players will lose their Bird Rights status if they are traded to a new team. That means their new team cannot go over the salary cap to sign the player and cannot offer full 8% raises, nor a 5 year contract.

That a big deal for some players, thus why the player has trade veto power.

Does that mean we can't go over the cap to resign Kyrie?

Pretty sure we can.  In a trade, I believe Bird Rights are obtained by the new team, and he qualifies otherwise. 

Edit: Crap, saltlover is here.  If I'm wrong, he'll surely know.
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"As far as playing, I didn't care who guarded me - red, yellow, black. I just didn't want a white guy guarding me, because it's disrespect to my game."
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2017, 11:14:58 PM »

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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/912042340633673730

I find these trade restrictions to be pretty funny.  Ron Baker has one too. 

There's a good and logical reason for them, though. These players will lose their Bird Rights status if they are traded to a new team. That means their new team cannot go over the salary cap to sign the player and cannot offer full 8% raises, nor a 5 year contract.

That a big deal for some players, thus why the player has trade veto power.

Does that mean we can't go over the cap to resign Kyrie?

Pretty sure we can.  In a trade, I believe Bird Rights are obtained by the new team, and he qualifies otherwise.

Correct.  Bird rights only get lost (or reduced from full Bird to early Bird) when a player signs a 1-year deal and is traded.  I don't know exactly why this is, but I assume it's to prevent shenanigans where a player signs a 1-year deal with his original team, but everyone plans for him to be traded to a specific different team mid-season -- kind of like a delayed sign-and-trade, and then be re-signed the following season by his new team with Bird rights.  In the current CBA there would be real incentive for a team over the apron to pursue this, as they are prevented from making sign-and-trades, but this rule carries over from prior CBAs, and I don't know its origin.

Anyway, since Kyrie signed more than a one-year deal before he was traded, there are no issues with his Bird rights.  It's only for players on one-year deals.  Accordingly, they're allowed to veto a trade to preserve their Bird rights.  This happened when we traded for Jordan Crawford in 2013.  Originally it was supposed to be Chris Wilcox in the deal, but as he'd signed a one-year deal and would have had Early Bird rights, he was allowed to veto it, and Jason Collins was sent in his place.

Also, player options and team options do not count in terms of contract length before they are exercised, so even though Mirotic has a year 2 option, he technically has a 1-year deal, which enables him to have veto power.  This is one reason Ainge signed Zeller to a non-guaranteed year 2 last season, as if it were a true team option, he would have had similar veto power.  If Mirotic remains with the Bulls next season because they exercise his option, he will not be able to veto a trade.

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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2017, 11:18:51 PM »

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Jesus what are the Bulls doing?
Mirotic is pure garbage.

Mirotic for $13.5 million x 2 years or Olynyk for 12.5 million x 4 years?
I know which one i'd take. And he gets veto power. Hahhaaha garpax are a joke.
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2017, 02:34:53 AM »

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2 year deal with veto power in the first year and a team option in the 2nd year.

That is pretty much the minimum amount of trust shown between organization and player possible in a 2 year deal.


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Jesus what are the Bulls doing?
Mirotic is pure garbage.

Mirotic for $13.5 million x 2 years or Olynyk for 12.5 million x 4 years?
I know which one i'd take. And he gets veto power. Hahhaaha garpax are a joke.
Bulls are below the salary floor and year 2 is a team option.  Also, Mirotic was their own player.
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