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Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 04:53:36 PM »

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I would take Lonzo 100 out of 100 times over Melo.

Lonzo is a winner who makes everyone on his team better.  Melo is a selfish loser and his game is limited at this point.


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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2017, 04:56:17 PM »

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Lonzo is a winner who makes everyone on his team better.  Melo is a selfish loser and his game is limited at this point.

It will depends on if he can get off that goofy shot of his, I have heard a lot of guys say he is going to have issue in the NBA with that shot.

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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2017, 05:00:48 PM »

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I would take Lonzo 100 out of 100 times over Melo.

Lonzo is a winner who makes everyone on his team better.  Melo is a selfish loser and his game is limited at this point.
No chance. Lonzo is a worse defender than Melo (even at this stage, which is an achievement in itself), while Melo has an offensive game that has not just been proven to work, but proven to be elite. Jury is still out on whether Lonzo will succeed at the NBA level, with his combination of a horrible shot technique, no mid-range game, weak free throw shooting and a weak PnR game.

Melo 100/100 times
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2017, 05:23:10 PM »

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SI and ESPN both out with click-bait lists vying to get some action in the NBA dead zone that is September.

Can't wait for the first exhibition game.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2017, 05:52:45 PM »

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I would take Lonzo 100 out of 100 times over Melo.

Lonzo is a winner who makes everyone on his team better.  Melo is a selfish loser and his game is limited at this point.
No chance. Lonzo is a worse defender than Melo (even at this stage, which is an achievement in itself), while Melo has an offensive game that has not just been proven to work, but proven to be elite. Jury is still out on whether Lonzo will succeed at the NBA level, with his combination of a horrible shot technique, no mid-range game, weak free throw shooting and a weak PnR game.

Melo 100/100 times

Ok enjoy never making the playoffs because Melo doesn't make anyone on his team better.

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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2017, 06:02:17 PM »

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I would take Lonzo 100 out of 100 times over Melo.

Lonzo is a winner who makes everyone on his team better.  Melo is a selfish loser and his game is limited at this point.
No chance. Lonzo is a worse defender than Melo (even at this stage, which is an achievement in itself), while Melo has an offensive game that has not just been proven to work, but proven to be elite. Jury is still out on whether Lonzo will succeed at the NBA level, with his combination of a horrible shot technique, no mid-range game, weak free throw shooting and a weak PnR game.

Melo 100/100 times

Ok enjoy never making the playoffs because Melo doesn't make anyone on his team better.
Right. That must be why all those teams where Melo was the best player never made the playoffs.

Except for the fact that that never happened. He's lead teams to multiple 50+ win seasons, yet gets hated for never heating Kobe's Lakers, TD's Spurs or LeBron's Heat.

Did Paul Pierce make anyone on his team better prior to acquiring KG and Ray?
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Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2017, 06:11:53 PM »

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Melo been in the league a long time and has had plenty of chance to get somewhere.  He made it to the WCF once.... then demaded a trade.

Melos game is not good for a winning team.  He is an isolation mid range player. It's antiquated and ineffective. 


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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2017, 06:26:56 PM »

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And back to Smart...

I'm encouraged by his physique and selfless play.

He's a winner.

Re: Smart ranked #65 in the League
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2017, 07:22:48 PM »

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I don't understand how he's in the same range as Bradley.  I see them as roughly-equivalent defenders - both are good, though both are a bit overrated on this site.  But Bradley is a MUCH better offensive player.  It isn't even a contest.

I'd buy Bradley being around #60.  That makes sense to me.  But I'm honestly surprised Smart is in the top 100.

http://bkref.com/tiny/gZMOQ

Avery is clearly a better shooter but beyond that they are very close in everything, with Smart putting up better defensive stats.

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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2017, 07:25:24 PM »

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It is hilarious that they based everything on Lonzo being ranked so high based on SUMMER LEAGUE stats. Based on that Tatum should have been in the top 100. So should Jaylen Brown.

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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2017, 07:51:49 PM »

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I would take Lonzo 100 out of 100 times over Melo.

Lonzo is a winner who makes everyone on his team better.  Melo is a selfish loser and his game is limited at this point.
No chance. Lonzo is a worse defender than Melo (even at this stage, which is an achievement in itself), while Melo has an offensive game that has not just been proven to work, but proven to be elite. Jury is still out on whether Lonzo will succeed at the NBA level, with his combination of a horrible shot technique, no mid-range game, weak free throw shooting and a weak PnR game.

Melo 100/100 times

Ok enjoy never making the playoffs because Melo doesn't make anyone on his team better.
Right. That must be why all those teams where Melo was the best player never made the playoffs.

Except for the fact that that never happened. He's lead teams to multiple 50+ win seasons, yet gets hated for never heating Kobe's Lakers, TD's Spurs or LeBron's Heat.

Did Paul Pierce make anyone on his team better prior to acquiring KG and Ray?

For the record, Melo has noticed his ranking:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9BP8gBD0k/
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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2017, 07:55:52 PM »

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I would take Lonzo 100 out of 100 times over Melo.

Lonzo is a winner who makes everyone on his team better.  Melo is a selfish loser and his game is limited at this point.

Both of those guys spent 1 year in college as the #1 guy on a major team.  Melo won a championship and Lonzo got bounced in the Sweet Sixteen.  It might be a good idea to wait for an actual track record of more success before throwing those labels around.

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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2017, 08:14:05 PM »

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It is hilarious that they based everything on Lonzo being ranked so high based on SUMMER LEAGUE stats. Based on that Tatum should have been in the top 100. So should Jaylen Brown.

Building him up so they can tear him down.

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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2017, 08:28:31 PM »

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I had him at #64 on my board. 
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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2017, 08:35:24 PM »

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Lonzo being ranked ahead of Melo is easily the most ridiculous sports take I have seen this summer. Totally asinine.