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« on: February 24, 2013, 05:28:07 PM » |
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With the way Jeff Green is playing the last few months, and the way PP has been up and down all year, and losing a step , I just don't see how it makes much sense for him to be making 15 mil next year.
He is only partially guaranteed 4 or 5 mil next year , so a team looking to shed salary or a contender might have interest ?
Or should we just keep him for 1 more year , and try to make 1 more run next year with Rondo and Sully back before PP and KG ride off into the sunset ?
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2013, 05:29:30 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2013, 05:39:04 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2013, 05:39:33 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green.
Pinched nerve Pierce is still the best SF on the Celtics. |
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2013, 05:43:54 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green.
Pinched nerve Pierce is still the best SF on the Celtics.
I'm talking about 2013-2014 Pierce |
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Jeff Green - Top 5 SF[Kevin Garnett]
"I've always said J. Green is going to be one of the best players to ever play this game"
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2013, 05:46:12 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green.
Pinched nerve Pierce is still the best SF on the Celtics.
I'm talking about 2013-2014 Pierce
Until I see a huge decline from what is out there now, Pierce is clearly the better player. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 05:47:42 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green.
Pinched nerve Pierce is still the best SF on the Celtics.
I'm talking about 2013-2014 Pierce
Until I see a huge decline from what is out there now, Pierce is clearly the better player.
Just because Pierce doesn't decline doesn't mean Green won't get much better  |
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Jeff Green - Top 5 SF[Kevin Garnett]
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2013, 05:49:11 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green.
Pinched nerve Pierce is still the best SF on the Celtics.
I'm talking about 2013-2014 Pierce
Until I see a huge decline from what is out there now, Pierce is clearly the better player.
Just because Pierce doesn't decline doesn't mean Green won't get much better
Let me know when he plays better did all those year with the Thunder. (you know, the way he is finally playing here in Boston) |
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2013, 05:52:33 PM » |
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Let me know when he plays better did all those year with the Thunder. (you know, the way he is finally playing here in Boston)
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 06:11:31 PM » |
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Until I see a huge decline from what is out there now, Pierce is clearly the better player.
Not sure how this is defensible, Pierce clearly looks on his last legs: most shots are flat, driving to the basket is an issue, defense is pretty much nonexistent. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2013, 06:27:53 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green.
Pinched nerve Pierce is still the best SF on the Celtics.
I'm talking about 2013-2014 Pierce
Until I see a huge decline from what is out there now, Pierce is clearly the better player.
Somebody needs to take their green-colored glasses off. While we need to see Green perform at this level for a much longer time and he's GOT to become a better rebounder, Green's size, speed and athleticism alone make it a close race between him and Pierce. Pierce is a Hall of Famer and even running on fumes, he's still going to give you something. But while Green may never be close to being as good as Pierce was, Green is doing things for this team now that Pierce can't. Mike |
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2013, 07:29:23 PM » |
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As long as KG is here, you keep the best players you have to go with him.
Pierce is still the best SF and top 3 player on this team. He stays.
Might be fourth after Rondo/KG/Green.
Pinched nerve Pierce is still the best SF on the Celtics.
I'm talking about 2013-2014 Pierce
Until I see a huge decline from what is out there now, Pierce is clearly the better player.
Somebody needs to take their green-colored glasses off. While we need to see Green perform at this level for a much longer time and he's GOT to become a better rebounder, Green's size, speed and athleticism alone make it a close race between him and Pierce.
Pierce is a Hall of Famer and even running on fumes, he's still going to give you something. But while Green may never be close to being as good as Pierce was, Green is doing things for this team now that Pierce can't.
Mike
That is a long lists of "ifs" to make it "close" Pierce is still the better player. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 07:37:46 PM » |
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On a per-minute basis, Pierce is averaging 24% more points than Green, 37% more rebounds, three times more assists, and 56% more steals. That's with Pierce playing with a pinched nerve.
I think the "Green is better" argument is pretty premature.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 07:41:48 PM » |
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This only happens if KG decides to retire. Pierce will be on this team until then.
Now, depending on how Pierce looks compared to Green for the remainder of this season, I wouldn't rule out switching their roles.
Maybe during the off-season, Doc has a talk with Pierce, and sees if he would accept a move to the bench. Pierce would still finish games, but with reduced minutes against lesser players, it might be to his and the team's benefit. This is stictly hypothetical though.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 07:53:56 PM » |
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This only happens if KG decides to retire. Pierce will be on this team until then.
Now, depending on how Pierce looks compared to Green for the remainder of this season, I wouldn't rule out switching their roles.
Maybe during the off-season, Doc has a talk with Pierce, and sees if he would accept a move to the bench. Pierce would still finish games, but with reduced minutes against lesser players, it might be to his and the team's benefit. This is stictly hypothetical though.
Then everyone is on the table to be traded. |
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