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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2013, 03:56:35 PM »

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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2013, 04:00:55 PM »

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Remember Doc said they don't need a pure PG, they just need someone to handle the ball, this signing falls in line with that.
I think there are two issues that are important here:

(1) I don't think there's anyone out there who's got the talent level to just be given the ball and trusted to be the full-time PG. Hence the need for a ball-handler (someone who can get us to the front court without turning it over) rather than a PG (someone who will direct the offense).

(2) We desperately need another player who can defend bigger guards (at some point we had to put Jeff Green on Kobe; he didn't embarrass himself, but I can't quite see this as a long-term solution).

So in a way, this is a two-in-one move to address both issues. Pretty nifty, if Williams can prove he fits the bill.

koz, I've never seen you so optimistic.

Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2013, 04:06:03 PM »

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Remember Doc said they don't need a pure PG, they just need someone to handle the ball, this signing falls in line with that.
I think there are two issues that are important here:

(1) I don't think there's anyone out there who's got the talent level to just be given the ball and trusted to be the full-time PG. Hence the need for a ball-handler (someone who can get us to the front court without turning it over) rather than a PG (someone who will direct the offense).

(2) We desperately need another player who can defend bigger guards (at some point we had to put Jeff Green on Kobe; he didn't embarrass himself, but I can't quite see this as a long-term solution).

So in a way, this is a two-in-one move to address both issues. Pretty nifty, if Williams can prove he fits the bill.

Seems a pretty spot-on analysis to me.  Man I hope Williams can at least give us 75% of what Barbosa was giving us.  I don't know much about him.  Is he known as a good def player at all?

Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2013, 04:14:51 PM »

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Remember Doc said they don't need a pure PG, they just need someone to handle the ball, this signing falls in line with that.
I think there are two issues that are important here:

(1) I don't think there's anyone out there who's got the talent level to just be given the ball and trusted to be the full-time PG. Hence the need for a ball-handler (someone who can get us to the front court without turning it over) rather than a PG (someone who will direct the offense).

(2) We desperately need another player who can defend bigger guards (at some point we had to put Jeff Green on Kobe; he didn't embarrass himself, but I can't quite see this as a long-term solution).

So in a way, this is a two-in-one move to address both issues. Pretty nifty, if Williams can prove he fits the bill.

Seems a pretty spot-on analysis to me.  Man I hope Williams can at least give us 75% of what Barbosa was giving us.  I don't know much about him.  Is he known as a good def player at all?

Doc said he wants guys who can play regardless of position. Meaning the best guys to look at, when there are no clear cut guys based on talent, are versatile swiss army knife type players. Guys who can play multiple positions make it easier on the rotation's flexibility.

Williams fits that.


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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2013, 04:15:16 PM »

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great signing for a 10 day contract. williams has 10 days to convince people that the "knucklehead" part of his past is dead and gone.

outstanding talent burdened with a crushing ego so far. let's hope he has learned his lesson and will give the celtics some strong play off the bench. if williams has turned his head around, then danny has made a great addition to the team.
Well, he can be signed to two 10 days before Danny/Doc has to finally decide. That should be plenty of time to see how much knucklehead he still has in him.

Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2013, 04:38:04 PM »

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Great! Now Danny has to waive Barbosa (like they did with Green last season) and sign Yi Jianlian from China. Another lottery talent who couldn't live to big expectations, but who is a more mature player now. He can shoot, he's 7 feet tall and KG can hide his defensive flaws.

Trade Bass for Mozgov+Randolph and we're set.

At least, I hope T. Williams can help the team and stay for the season.

Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2013, 04:48:34 PM »

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Great! Now Danny has to waive Barbosa (like they did with Green last season) and sign Yi Jianlian from China. Another lottery talent who couldn't live to big expectations, but who is a more mature player now. He can shoot, he's 7 feet tall and KG can hide his defensive flaws.

Trade Bass for Mozgov+Randolph and we're set.

At least, I hope T. Williams can help the team and stay for the season.

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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2013, 05:18:25 PM »

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Oh yeah and tell them we'll move Collins for McGee too!

Bass is a very undesirable quantity at the moment. Good luck moving him at all let alone for a center who is NBA caliber.

I love the Williams signing too. Hope he doesn't get punched by KG for being a fool :)

Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2013, 05:27:53 PM »

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Okay signing but to be honest, I don't expect him to see the floor much. He's here to have a warm body in practice, to learn the system, to be injury insurance against Lee, Terry and Bradley going down, and to play in the occasional garbage minute or so.

If at the end of his 10 day contract he has played more than 20-25 minutes total(six games), I would be shocked.

Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2013, 05:30:13 PM »

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Okay signing but to be honest, I don't expect him to see the floor much. He's here to have a warm body in practice, to learn the system, to be injury insurance against Lee, Terry and Bradley going down, and to play in the occasional garbage minute or so.

If at the end of his 10 day contract he has played more than 20-25 minutes total(six games), I would be shocked.

It really depends on how the games go. If they all go down to the wire, I wouldn't be surprised if he played 10 minutes total. If most are blowouts (for us hopefully), I wouldn't be surprised if he played 50 minutes. And then we can always get him on a second contract. I really want him to stay for the season, and I haven't seen him play in green yet. ;D
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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2013, 05:32:58 PM »

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Great! Now Danny has to waive Barbosa (like they did with Green last season) and sign Yi Jianlian from China. Another lottery talent who couldn't live to big expectations, but who is a more mature player now. He can shoot, he's 7 feet tall and KG can hide his defensive flaws.

Trade Bass for Mozgov+Randolph and we're set.

At least, I hope T. Williams can help the team and stay for the season.

And is also made of glass.  ::)
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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2013, 05:35:10 PM »

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Okay signing but to be honest, I don't expect him to see the floor much. He's here to have a warm body in practice, to learn the system, to be injury insurance against Lee, Terry and Bradley going down, and to play in the occasional garbage minute or so.

If at the end of his 10 day contract he has played more than 20-25 minutes total(six games), I would be shocked.

Well, that's cool. We have 10 (8 valid) players on our rotation. We don't have that luxury to give out garbade mins. We need a big trade or something.
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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2013, 05:38:36 PM »

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Yi was great in the Olympics, I'd give him another chance just like Prigioni, Mills, de Colo, Shved, Kirilenko got chances.
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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2013, 05:43:51 PM »

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Okay signing but to be honest, I don't expect him to see the floor much. He's here to have a warm body in practice, to learn the system, to be injury insurance against Lee, Terry and Bradley going down, and to play in the occasional garbage minute or so.

If at the end of his 10 day contract he has played more than 20-25 minutes total(six games), I would be shocked.

Normally I'd agree with you -- T-Will is the type of player who tends to have a lot of trouble seeing the floor on this team.

But if Doc Rivers really only plays T-Will 5-10 minutes a night when we have three healthy guards on the roster (including one who is 35 years old), then he's an complete and utter moron.

At this point, Doc needs to put his rotation together with the primary goal of not wearing guys out and preventing further injuries.  Putting the best team on the floor is kind of secondary when there are only 10 healthy players on the roster and one of them might as well still be in college he's so raw.
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Re: Welcome Terrence Williams!
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2013, 05:45:14 PM »

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Okay signing but to be honest, I don't expect him to see the floor much. He's here to have a warm body in practice, to learn the system, to be injury insurance against Lee, Terry and Bradley going down, and to play in the occasional garbage minute or so.

If at the end of his 10 day contract he has played more than 20-25 minutes total(six games), I would be shocked.

They could have went with a lot of warm buddies but picking a guy like Williams makes me think they are looking to hit lightning in a bottle.