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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2013, 10:52:41 PM » |
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definitely not. He's been a role player for most of his career
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2013, 10:55:00 PM » |
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Does anybody remember what the score was before terry hit that big 3? I'm trying to remember.
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2013, 11:07:39 PM » |
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definitely not. He's been a role player for most of his career
what does it mean to be a role player? Is this used to describe non-eilte players. It cannot just mean players that perform a role because all players perform a role some to lead some to support. If you fulfill your 'role' as a supporting player magnificently why should you not be considered for the hall of fame. After all we know that BB is a team game and championships are won by teams not individuals. Therefore, I do not see why been just a 'role' player should take one out of the running for the Hall. Was Horry a role player.. he has more rings than MJ with multiple teams - Is he a HOF?
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2013, 11:13:02 PM » |
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No. How many 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team all-NBA appearances does he have? I really don't know, but I would bet it's a low number. If so, how can a guy not be one of the top 15 players in the league for most of his career and be a HOF player?
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2013, 03:19:43 AM » |
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No. The 2011 playoff run was a nice highlight for his career. But on the whole he's been a high-usage clutch-shooting sixth man in the NBA. That's a very respectable career, but not HoF caliber.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2013, 03:56:53 AM » |
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definitely not. He's been a role player for most of his career
what does it mean to be a role player? Is this used to describe non-eilte players. It cannot just mean players that perform a role because all players perform a role some to lead some to support. If you fulfill your 'role' as a supporting player magnificently why should you not be considered for the hall of fame. After all we know that BB is a team game and championships are won by teams not individuals. Therefore, I do not see why been just a 'role' player should take one out of the running for the Hall.
Was Horry a role player.. he has more rings than MJ with multiple teams - Is he a HOF?
if terry had 6 rings it would be a different story
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2013, 04:28:17 AM » |
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Well, b-r.com's for Hall of Fame probability have Bosh at 89.17% (or approximately between Ray Allen and Kevin McHale) and Jason Terry at 1.6% (or less than Antoine Walker...or Rajon Rondo, for that matter).
EDIT: Well, I was slow looking stuff up.
Steve Nash is at .57............ and Bosh is at 89... Bosh is a ****ing dinosaur that rides the coat tails of 2 better team mates. I actually find it hard for Wade to be that high. Nash > Wade in HoF standard imho
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2013, 06:38:05 AM » |
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NO, he is not a HoF.
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2013, 07:23:49 AM » |
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Well, b-r.com's for Hall of Fame probability have Bosh at 89.17% (or approximately between Ray Allen and Kevin McHale) and Jason Terry at 1.6% (or less than Antoine Walker...or Rajon Rondo, for that matter).
EDIT: Well, I was slow looking stuff up.
Steve Nash is at .57............ and Bosh is at 89... Bosh is a ****ing dinosaur that rides the coat tails of 2 better team mates. I actually find it hard for Wade to be that high.
Nash > Wade in HoF standard imho
That formula puts too much emphasis on championships, because I think Nash is a surefire HOFer
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2013, 08:30:18 AM » |
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Well, b-r.com's for Hall of Fame probability have Bosh at 89.17% (or approximately between Ray Allen and Kevin McHale) and Jason Terry at 1.6% (or less than Antoine Walker...or Rajon Rondo, for that matter).
EDIT: Well, I was slow looking stuff up.
Steve Nash is at .57............ and Bosh is at 89... Bosh is a ****ing dinosaur that rides the coat tails of 2 better team mates. I actually find it hard for Wade to be that high.
Nash > Wade in HoF standard imho
That formula puts too much emphasis on championships, because I think Nash is a surefire HOFer
You have it backwards. The formula is based on players that are actually in the HOF. It looks at their stats, career achievements, etc. and then the formula is created. So it doesn't put too much emphasis on championships it is just that guys that win championships as a 1st or 2nd or option on the team by and large make the HOF. MVP's is the other thing that rates very highly. IN fact there isn't a single MVP that is eligible that isn't in the HOF, so I am a bit surprised Nash is that low since he has 2 of them.
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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2013, 08:36:32 AM » |
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He belongs in the "Hall of Very Good", but he's not a HOFer.
At the same time, Terry's career numbers are very similar to Jo Jo White's. As a hypocritical homer, I'd vote White in, and leave Terry out.
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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2013, 08:37:55 AM » |
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this was discussed when he first came to boston. he is no way a hall of famer and if he by some chance were to get in, then the hof has significantly lowered its standards imo
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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2013, 08:39:36 AM » |
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Well, b-r.com's for Hall of Fame probability have Bosh at 89.17% (or approximately between Ray Allen and Kevin McHale) and Jason Terry at 1.6% (or less than Antoine Walker...or Rajon Rondo, for that matter).
EDIT: Well, I was slow looking stuff up.
Steve Nash is at .57............ and Bosh is at 89... Bosh is a ****ing dinosaur that rides the coat tails of 2 better team mates. I actually find it hard for Wade to be that high.
Nash > Wade in HoF standard imho
That formula puts too much emphasis on championships, because I think Nash is a surefire HOFer
You have it backwards. The formula is based on players that are actually in the HOF. It looks at their stats, career achievements, etc. and then the formula is created. So it doesn't put too much emphasis on championships it is just that guys that win championships as a 1st or 2nd or option on the team by and large make the HOF. MVP's is the other thing that rates very highly. IN fact there isn't a single MVP that is eligible that isn't in the HOF, so I am a bit surprised Nash is that low since he has 2 of them.
Well, Nash didn't win a championship and has MVPs, he's almost a guaranteed lock... yet the formula says he is .57, doesn't that mean the formula puts too much emphasis on championships?? this was discussed when he first came to boston. he is no way a hall of famer and if he by some chance were to get in, then the hof has significantly lowered its standards imo
Ralph Sampson made it. 
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« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2013, 08:40:27 AM » |
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Not even close...long sustained good play....never been a star, if they made a hall for role players then yes he could go their with the likes of John Paxson and Danny ainge
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« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2013, 08:47:05 AM » |
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Well, b-r.com's for Hall of Fame probability have Bosh at 89.17% (or approximately between Ray Allen and Kevin McHale) and Jason Terry at 1.6% (or less than Antoine Walker...or Rajon Rondo, for that matter).
EDIT: Well, I was slow looking stuff up.
Steve Nash is at .57............ and Bosh is at 89... Bosh is a ****ing dinosaur that rides the coat tails of 2 better team mates. I actually find it hard for Wade to be that high.
Nash > Wade in HoF standard imho
That formula puts too much emphasis on championships, because I think Nash is a surefire HOFer
You have it backwards. The formula is based on players that are actually in the HOF. It looks at their stats, career achievements, etc. and then the formula is created. So it doesn't put too much emphasis on championships it is just that guys that win championships as a 1st or 2nd or option on the team by and large make the HOF. MVP's is the other thing that rates very highly. IN fact there isn't a single MVP that is eligible that isn't in the HOF, so I am a bit surprised Nash is that low since he has 2 of them.
Well, Nash didn't win a championship and has MVPs, he's almost a guaranteed lock... yet the formula says he is .57, doesn't that mean the formula puts too much emphasis on championships??
this was discussed when he first came to boston. he is no way a hall of famer and if he by some chance were to get in, then the hof has significantly lowered its standards imo
Ralph Sampson made it. 
Actually, I looked, it appears that MVP's aren't counted. I thought they were at one time. Nash will get in because of the MVP's I would suspect, but perhaps that thing needs to better account for MVP's. What really hurts Nash though is he had a lot of seasons at the beginning of his career that weren't very good. I mean he didn't even get to 8 apg until his 8th year at the age of 29 and he has never had more than 18.8 ppg. That really hurts his overall numbers.
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