Yoki_IsTheName
Don Chaney 
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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2013, 01:12:27 PM » |
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Am I the only one here that thinks this is a solid deal for Chicago.
They both suck on defense, Bargs can also drop points like Boozer. He's not a better rebounder but he can stretch the floor. He's also cheaper. And I think Thibs defensive schemes can hide Bargs deficiencies, and he's not a bad post defender.
I like this for the Bulls.
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2013 Historical Draft: LA Lakers
C - Kareem (71-72)
PF - Roundfield (81-82)
SF - Tripucka (82-83), M.L. Carr (78-79)
SG - Moncrief (83-84), M.Cooper (86-87)
PG - Buse (75-76)
8.11, 9.2, 10.11, 11.2, 12.11
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BleedGreen1989
Paul Pierce
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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2013, 01:17:26 PM » |
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Am I the only one here that thinks this is a solid deal for Chicago.
They both suck on defense, Bargs can also drop points like Boozer. He's not a better rebounder but he can stretch the floor. He's also cheaper. And I think Thibs defensive schemes can hide Bargs deficiencies, and he's not a bad post defender.
I like this for the Bulls.
Nope I'm there with you. I believe I am the only one who does not think Bargs is hot garbage. He certainly is not a star (or worthy of the #1 pick) but I think he can be a very solid 2nd or 3rd option. Also, Toronto was forcing him to play center for a lot of his time there. He is not a center, but rather a PF. Put him next to a defensive minded center who rebounds like Noah and I think it's a great fit. When Rose comes back, imagine pick-n-pop with him and Bargs |
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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2013, 05:09:38 PM » |
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Not sure if I would do this, but it would probably make Boston more of a contender in the short term (though I'm not sure enough of one that I would do the trade)
TOR - Green, Bass
CHI - Bargs, Barbosa, Collins
BOS - Boozer, Belinelli, Lucas, CHI 1st (top 20 protected)
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2013 CB Historical Draft
Philadelphia 76ers - Coach -
PG's - Calvin Murphy (75-76)
Wings - Julius Erving (75-76), Mark Aguirre (86-87), Reggis Theus (85-86)
Bigs - Bob Lanier (73-74), Spencer Haywood (72-73), Mychal Thompson (81-82)
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ssspence
Don Chaney
Tommy Points: 229
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James Naismith to Dickey Betts for the jam.....
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2013, 05:12:04 PM » |
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Why? Seems like a pointless trade for both teams.
I agree. I don't really get it for either team. Treading water. |
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2013, 05:13:44 PM » |
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Not sure if I would do this, but it would probably make Boston more of a contender in the short term (though I'm not sure enough of one that I would do the trade)
TOR - Green, Bass
CHI - Bargs, Barbosa, Collins
BOS - Boozer, Belinelli, Lucas, CHI 1st (top 20 protected)
I think Jeff Green is more important to beating Miami and New York than Boozer is. I don't think Boozer gives the team an added advantage against Brooklyn either. Maybe Indiana with David West, Booz would be useful there. But overall, I don't think this trade would improve Boston's chances of making it out of the East. |
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Kansas City - 8.9, 9.4, 10.9, 11.4, 12.9
G - Magic Johnson
G - Andrew Toney
F - Bernard King
F - Larry Nance, Cedric Maxwell
C - Jack Sikma, Marvin Webster
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kozlodoev
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2013, 06:00:45 PM » |
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Am I the only one here that thinks this is a solid deal for Chicago.
They both suck on defense, Bargs can also drop points like Boozer. He's not a better rebounder but he can stretch the floor. He's also cheaper. And I think Thibs defensive schemes can hide Bargs deficiencies, and he's not a bad post defender.
I like this for the Bulls.
To say that Bargnani is "not a better rebounder" is the understatement of the year. Bargnani has consistently posted single-digit(!) TRRs over his career, while playing PF and even C for the Raptors. In his worst year, Boozer had a TRR of 16. Chicago would be crazy to give up any sort of assets for Bargnani. I know Boozer is not a world-beater, but starting Bargnani instead is just madness. |
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CelticConcourse
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2013, 06:02:36 PM » |
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Bargnani is the worst rebounder in the league. I'm not even trying to joke with you. He's worse than E'Twaun Moore or Isaiah Thomas. He's ridiculously bad.
This would likely put the Bulls out of contention until the 2016-17 season.
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Jeff Green - Top 5 SF[Kevin Garnett]
"I've always said J. Green is going to be one of the best players to ever play this game"
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LooseCannon
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2013, 06:52:32 PM » |
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Not sure if I would do this, but it would probably make Boston more of a contender in the short term (though I'm not sure enough of one that I would do the trade)
TOR - Green, Bass
CHI - Bargs, Barbosa, Collins
BOS - Boozer, Belinelli, Lucas, CHI 1st (top 20 protected)
In December, you probably could have gotten several people here to agree to trading Green and Bass for Boozer without getting anything else in return. |
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crownontherocks
Brandon Bass
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« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2013, 10:53:53 AM » |
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Beat writer Doug Smith says the Raptors have "no interest" in Carlos Boozer. The Raptors' front office appears to have their heads on straight here. Boozer is a 31-year-old defensive liability that is owed $15.3 million next season and $16.8 million in 2014/15. Meanwhile, Andrea Bargnani is due $10.7 million next season and $11.5 million in 2014/15. Inexpensive workhorse Amir Johnson is a better fit than either. The Raptors are on the hunt for a better, more cost-effective Bargnani deal.
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