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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2013, 01:18:36 AM »
Mozgov is a center, so Garnett would be at the 4. Mozgov is a good positional defender. He can make defenses change up their shots, and he can clog the middle better than Dalembert. But like said, Dalembert is quicker off his feet and a better shot blocker.

 Mozgov is slow. Dalembert can run the floor better, block shots, and has better range.
Dalembert had 8 pts. 11 rebs. 4 blks. and 5 stls. today. He is consistent with his rebounding and shot blocking. That's why I think he is the more suitable player for the Celtics.

but would you give them lee? picks? bass? terry? by breaking the 4 sg rotation?

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2013, 01:26:22 AM »
but we have to think does bucks really needs a PF bass?
giving us dalembert give us more chance on winning,
would bucks want to help us?

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2013, 07:36:03 AM »
but we have to think does bucks really needs a PF bass?
giving us dalembert give us more chance on winning,
would bucks want to help us?
Bucks can use another sg. Giving lee works, if they like him. Btw sell high for Melo? When will the time for that arrive? We need to make moves to get another shot at the title b4 kg and pp are retired or whatever. Time is now. Imo a recent 1st round pick that broke the single game nbdl blocks record is going warrant some interest
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2013, 07:38:45 AM »
Joel Pryz. Don't worry, he'll soon  enough become a future HOF when KG talks him into it
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2013, 08:24:22 AM »

Also i didn't include Gortat in this list bc rumor is he wants out due to not getting enough touches. If this rumor is true, he has no place in our lineup.

any other realistic suggestions?

Gortat (will cost more) and Dalembert are my choices.

Gortat wants more touches on THAT team because it is a team bereft of talent and he deserves them. He's always done the "dirty work" and plays a team game.

I doubt very much if we were lucky enough to get Gortat that he would have a problem with not getting his touches here, given our talent and skilled players vs, the Suns.

He'll know his role and buy into it.

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2013, 09:54:05 AM »
In my opinion our best bet would be to pick up a guy on a couple 10day contracts like Hassan Whiteside or some other D-League guy and wait for buyouts after the trading deadline.

I like Whiteside because he is efficient, blocks shots, and his per 48 rebounding stats are a gaudy 25.  What we need is a guy to come in an give rebounding and a live body for 5 minutes at a time, maybe twice a game.  That isn't a lot to ask.

He hasn't been playing much however which makes me wonder if he has an attitude, injury, or someone is trying to hide him so another team doesn't poach him.

Check out his numbers from Dec and early Jan when he was getting double digit minutes every night.  He was super efficient which might have all been dunks for all I know.  There are a lot of 8-11 ish type games in there.

Jan 07    @ LAD    W 127 - 104    20    8-11    0-0    3-5    5    12    17    0    1    5    1    2    19
Jan 04    @ AUS    W 118 - 108    6    1-1    0-0    1-2    1    1    2    0    0    2    0    0    3
Jan 01    @ SCW    L 93 - 109    10    0-1    0-0    0-0    1    2    3    0    1    0    0    0    0
Date    Opponent    Result    min    fgm-a    3pm-a    ftm-a    off    def    reb    ast    stl    blk    to    pf    pts
Dec 29    vs. MNE    W 101 - 87    17    5-6    0-0    2-4    2    4    6    1    0    2    1    3    12
Dec 28    vs. MNE    L 94 - 106    19    1-2    0-0    5-6    1    8    9    1    0    1    1    3    7
Dec 25    vs. IWA    L 80 - 102    23    8-11    0-0    1-2    4    11    15    0    2    3    3    2    17
Dec 21    @ TEX    L 102 - 104    11    2-5    0-0    3-4    4    4    8    0    0    1    2    4    7
Dec 15    vs. AUS    L 102 - 111    17    7-9    0-0    1-4    0    3    3    0    1    0    0    0    15
Dec 14    vs. AUS    W 115 - 105    18    5-8    0-0    4-5    6    4    10    0    1    3    3    1    14

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2013, 10:01:50 AM »
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2013, 10:18:30 AM »
The only trades you do now are for the future, no way in hell Danny pulls a trade to make this years team better.

On top of that no one wants are junk, KG is are best trade chip, PP with his flat no lift jump shot is losing value daily.

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2013, 10:25:40 AM »
The only trades you do now are for the future, no way in hell Danny pulls a trade to make this years team better.

On top of that no one wants are junk, KG is are best trade chip, PP with his flat no lift jump shot is losing value daily.

Yep. Just small pickups.
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2013, 10:30:52 AM »
I think based on where we are - it makes a lot more sense to see how Fab Melo plays out as opposed to moving him for a career journeyman who isn't likely to affect our final outcome

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2013, 10:33:50 AM »
but we have to think does bucks really needs a PF bass?
giving us dalembert give us more chance on winning,
would bucks want to help us?
Bucks can use another sg. Giving lee works, if they like him. Btw sell high for Melo? When will the time for that arrive? We need to make moves to get another shot at the title b4 kg and pp are retired or whatever. Time is now. Imo a recent 1st round pick that broke the single game nbdl blocks record is going warrant some interest

you will give lee for dalembert?
really?
did you see lee played tonight?
then we sign old veteran players?

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2013, 10:37:53 AM »
but we have to think does bucks really needs a PF bass?
giving us dalembert give us more chance on winning,
would bucks want to help us?
Bucks can use another sg. Giving lee works, if they like him. Btw sell high for Melo? When will the time for that arrive? We need to make moves to get another shot at the title b4 kg and pp are retired or whatever. Time is now. Imo a recent 1st round pick that broke the single game nbdl blocks record is going warrant some interest

you will give lee for dalembert?
really?
did you see lee played tonight?
then we sign old veteran players?

If we're talking about recent performances - did you see Dalembert's 35 and 12 game two nights ago?

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2013, 10:52:11 AM »
With the good play of barbosa recently, we can afford to lose lee. I like lee and he is a strong defender, but shaky on offense. I rather have dalembert, start barb with ab and get another guard who can defend cheap like a shelvin Mack. Much easier to find these kind of guys than say a decent pf/c
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2013, 11:01:05 AM »
Shelvin Mack profile

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/shelvin-mack

don't expect much for offense. Hasn't had much chance to play. Good nbdl stats. Its the defense energy we could really use off the bench if we lose lee
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2013, 11:06:01 AM »
I think based on where we are - it makes a lot more sense to see how Fab Melo plays out as opposed to moving him for a career journeyman who isn't likely to affect our final outcome
+1

If he's a  prospect in a bigger deal (to dump salary or acquire talent), go for it. But moving him for immediate help would be futile.