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What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« on: February 06, 2013, 11:40:41 PM »

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We are in dire need of a pf/c. When kg is sitting down in a game or may need a game or two off due to maintenance/injury, who is going to step in on both ends of the court?? If we had sully i don't think the issue is as worrisome.

We need to think big this season with kg and pp's career's winding down. Fab Melo might turn out to be the next Deandre Jordan, or maybe a dud but nothing will result anytime soon. I think the intrigue for him is there, bc of his ability to block shots

The list of guys that can fit our need are:

- Okafor and 2nd for (1st, Melo, Bass and Lee)
= Former top pick is still at an ok age, and better not being the go to guy. He is pretty athletic, strong and would be more than a decent pickup. Bc he is only signed for another year worth about 13 million, its not like he will mess up our cap for the long run. Who knows, maybe we want to keep him after anyways. Wizards are done and need prepare for the draft again. As for the loss of Bass , Green can easily take his min and as for Lee, Barbosa can step in. We would definitely need to make some other pickups. For example Shelvin Mack, is a pretty good defensive guard down at the nbdl

- Dalembert for Lee ( Dalmbert had a huge 35 point night the other day. Bucks might just keep him)

We could use him badly. Could of had him cheaper , if danny made a move sooner. Again fits the description for the rest of this year

- Byron Mullens for (1st, Melo)

I think his time with the bobcats is coming to an end. It just hasn't worked out. He is still cheap to keep for another year so thats why it might take a little more than usual to snatch him away. He definitely has the talent and size. High risk, high reward possibility. Worse case, he will be able to fill in for a resting kg and get you 10 points and 7 rebounds consistently.

- JJ Hickson for (2nd , Melo , Bass or Lee)

Worried about his attitude and being fully focused about playing team ball since he will be a FA next year. He has really come around and is a tough inside player that can also dunk with authority coming from the key. Has the foot speed to play help defense. Would likely just be a 1 year rental so its a risk to give up so much to get him.

Worse case have to pickup somebody cheap list:

- Mozgov
- Aaron Gray or Haddadi

but these guys will turn out to be like Collins. Just not enough speed/skill to play an important role in the lineup.
Also i didn't include Gortat in this list bc rumor is he wants out due to not getting enough touches. If this rumor is true, he has no place in our lineup.

any other realistic suggestions?
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 11:43:58 PM »

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Got to make sure you match salaries.

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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 11:44:44 PM »

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Nothing we couldn't get after the waiver period for the vet min.

Melo has zero trade value on his own.  Our pick probably doesn't have much either.

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 11:44:50 PM »

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Got to make sure you match salaries.

Yup the salaries match or are very close.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 11:47:11 PM »

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Nothing we couldn't get after the waiver period for the vet min.

Melo has zero trade value on his own.  Our pick probably doesn't have much either.

Our pick does have value by the 21st of Feb. Likely we won't keep winning and lose a few here and there and still be the 7th or 8th seed. Thats lottery zone. Plus the Rondo effect, some teams think we might not even make the playoffs.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 11:48:44 PM »

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Melo is OUR project.!!
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 11:51:29 PM »

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Nothing we couldn't get after the waiver period for the vet min.

Melo has zero trade value on his own.  Our pick probably doesn't have much either.

Our pick does have value by the 21st of Feb. Likely we won't keep winning and lose a few here and there and still be the 7th or 8th seed. Thats lottery zone. Plus the Rondo effect, some teams think we might not even make the playoffs.

The chances of the Celtics missing the playoffs are very slim.  The Eastern Conference is weak, and if we were trading for a player expected to help our playoff push, most any team would definitely assume we would.

Also, this years draft is projected to be very weak.  A non-lottery pick in a weak draft has very little value.

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 12:04:04 AM »

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Worse case have to pickup somebody cheap list:

- Mozgov
- Aaron Gray or Haddadi

but these guys will turn out to be like Collins. Just not enough speed/skill to play an important role in the lineup.
Also i didn't include Gortat in this list bc rumor is he wants out due to not getting enough touches. If this rumor is true, he has no place in our lineup.

any other realistic suggestions?
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i don't think so

mozgov can get 7 rebounds per game
and 11+ points per game
mozgov is better than collins

aaron gray 3.4 PPG and 3.5 RPG
haddadi is a bench player to me

« Last Edit: February 07, 2013, 12:41:42 AM by krook »

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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 12:11:00 AM »

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Worse case have to pickup somebody cheap list:

- Mozgov
- Aaron Gray or Haddadi

but these guys will turn out to be like Collins. Just not enough speed/skill to play an important role in the lineup.
Also i didn't include Gortat in this list bc rumor is he wants out due to not getting enough touches. If this rumor is true, he has no place in our lineup.

any other realistic suggestions?

i don't think so

mozgov can get 7 rebounds per game
and 11+ points per game
mozgov is better than collins

aaron gray 3.4 PPG and 3.5 RPG
haddadi is a bench player to me
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You have to realize that nobody knows if mozgov can do 10pts , 7rb on a consistent basis. I mean Wilcox can also do and has a few times done 10pts , 7 rbs. Right now we need proven more than the unknown.
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 12:14:54 AM »

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Nothing we couldn't get after the waiver period for the vet min.

Melo has zero trade value on his own.  Our pick probably doesn't have much either.

Our pick does have value by the 21st of Feb. Likely we won't keep winning and lose a few here and there and still be the 7th or 8th seed. Thats lottery zone. Plus the Rondo effect, some teams think we might not even make the playoffs.

The chances of the Celtics missing the playoffs are very slim.  The Eastern Conference is weak, and if we were trading for a player expected to help our playoff push, most any team would definitely assume we would.

Also, this years draft is projected to be very weak.  A non-lottery pick in a weak draft has very little value.

You have a point about getting better thus picks get worse. But I disagree this is a weak draft. There are some big talents all the way to the end of lotto. Also what will the wiz do with okafor? The team can't win with him.  Imo my proposal can entice the wiz. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 12:18:37 AM »

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Nothing. You will get only a peanuts for an unproven, very raw project. How about letting him develop and have a good looks so Danny can sell him high?

People on this board are really short-sighted...

Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 12:27:11 AM »

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No interest in B.Mullens. Minimal interest in JJ Hickson. I wouldn't give up anything of value for Hickson. I don't want to take on Okafor's contract with Rondo out injured.

Dalembert works for me.

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2013, 12:42:02 AM »

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Worse case have to pickup somebody cheap list:

- Mozgov
- Aaron Gray or Haddadi

but these guys will turn out to be like Collins. Just not enough speed/skill to play an important role in the lineup.
Also i didn't include Gortat in this list bc rumor is he wants out due to not getting enough touches. If this rumor is true, he has no place in our lineup.

any other realistic suggestions?

i don't think so

mozgov can get 7 rebounds per game
and 11+ points per game
mozgov is better than collins

aaron gray 3.4 PPG and 3.5 RPG
haddadi is a bench player to me

You have to realize that nobody knows if mozgov can do 10pts , 7rb on a consistent basis. I mean Wilcox can also do and has a few times done 10pts , 7 rbs. Right now we need proven more than the unknown.
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that is the most cheapest and can play 20+ minutes than collins,
don't everybody wants kg to rest for a couple of minutes
i think mozgov still got it
because of koufos and mcgee
he ain't got any playing time
thats a good big rotation for next year
when kg and sully are in PF, sully and kg minutes are balanced
while we got ODEN MOZGOV WILCOX etc; or even collins and melo, depends,

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2013, 12:52:05 AM »

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cheap and capable are two words that are like oil and water in this case.

I just want someone to clog the middle.
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Re: What capable pf/c can our 1st and Melo get us?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2013, 12:56:09 AM »

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cheap and capable are two words that are like oil and water in this case.

I just want someone to clog the middle.

did you think mozgov can't do it?
i think he really can,
can kenyon martin clog the middle?
maybe birdman is better than him at this moment

i don't think fysynko can, 5 rebounds a game?
dalembert on the list is ok, but will danny ainge give him the max contract?
straight trade for bass?
....
they can't clog the basket, but they can protect the basket
« Last Edit: February 07, 2013, 01:13:27 AM by krook »

 

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