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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2013, 06:44:50 PM »

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I don't want Butler.  Average 32-year-old SF's aren't what I think of as good assets going forward. 

A realistic "blow it up" trade will often require taking back a player like Butler as trade ballast.  In theory, he could have trade value as an expiring contract next season.
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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2013, 06:46:33 PM »

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Would not mind Bledsoe. Just not sure you want Odom. Love the URI connection; but would rather have Billups. Unfortunately they need Billups to back up Paul. Odom would not have much trade value other than the expiring.

Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2013, 06:57:32 PM »

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Would not mind Bledsoe. Just not sure you want Odom. Love the URI connection; but would rather have Billups. Unfortunately they need Billups to back up Paul. Odom would not have much trade value other than the expiring.

Definitely no Odom. (We can squeeze them for a lot more.)

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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2013, 07:00:10 PM »

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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2013, 08:22:53 PM »

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I bet the Clips would be happy to dump Jordan on us in place of Butler for KG.  He is averaging $11M over the next 2.5 seasons.  That is too much for 9 pts and 8 rebs.  We can get that from Sullinger.  I admit that I don't see the Clippers play all that much but I don't get the feeling that Jordan is a stopper of any sort either.

Bottom line, I just don't see a match; not with Bulter or Jordan with Bledsoe or anyone else.  Nice to see the interest though.  Maybe it will start a bidding war for KG.

Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2013, 08:26:07 PM »

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I bet the Clips would be happy to dump Jordan on us in place of Butler for KG.  He is averaging $11M over the next 2.5 seasons.  That is too much for 9 pts and 8 rebs.  We can get that from Sullinger.  I admit that I don't see the Clippers play all that much but I don't get the feeling that Jordan is a stopper of any sort either.

Bottom line, I just don't see a match; not with Bulter or Jordan with Bledsoe or anyone else.  Nice to see the interest though.  Maybe it will start a bidding war for KG.

Bledsoe and Jordan is a very good package for KG. Not sure why you think they'll be happy to dump Jordan. You mentioned his stats, but remember that he's only playing 24 mpg. Plus, he's only 24.  As much as I love KG, if that's what they're offering, I would begrudgingly pull the trigger.

Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2013, 08:37:10 PM »

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I bet the Clips would be happy to dump Jordan on us in place of Butler for KG.  He is averaging $11M over the next 2.5 seasons.  That is too much for 9 pts and 8 rebs.  We can get that from Sullinger.  I admit that I don't see the Clippers play all that much but I don't get the feeling that Jordan is a stopper of any sort either.

Bottom line, I just don't see a match; not with Bulter or Jordan with Bledsoe or anyone else.  Nice to see the interest though.  Maybe it will start a bidding war for KG.

Bledsoe and Jordan is a very good package for KG. Not sure why you think they'll be happy to dump Jordan. You mentioned his stats, but remember that he's only playing 24 mpg. Plus, he's only 24.  As much as I love KG, if that's what they're offering, I would begrudgingly pull the trigger.

What am I missing with Jordan.  I see he is young but 5 years in the league and big but there is no real production?  Does he suddenly blossom in year 6 or 7?

I only mention Jordan because I feel that would be the only realistic deal for KG.  No way Butler and Bledsoe gets it done (at least I sure hope not).

On paper,two young players would be great for KG but if one on them is locked in at $11M and is only doing 9 and 8, I can't see it.

Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2013, 08:46:30 PM »

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If we trade KG for Bledsoe and Butler we are starting Collins and Bass in the front court.  That has lottery written all over it.

Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2013, 08:47:43 PM »

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I bet the Clips would be happy to dump Jordan on us in place of Butler for KG.  He is averaging $11M over the next 2.5 seasons.  That is too much for 9 pts and 8 rebs.  We can get that from Sullinger.  I admit that I don't see the Clippers play all that much but I don't get the feeling that Jordan is a stopper of any sort either.

Bottom line, I just don't see a match; not with Bulter or Jordan with Bledsoe or anyone else.  Nice to see the interest though.  Maybe it will start a bidding war for KG.

Bledsoe and Jordan is a very good package for KG. Not sure why you think they'll be happy to dump Jordan. You mentioned his stats, but remember that he's only playing 24 mpg. Plus, he's only 24.  As much as I love KG, if that's what they're offering, I would begrudgingly pull the trigger.

What am I missing with Jordan.  I see he is young but 5 years in the league and big but there is no real production?  Does he suddenly blossom in year 6 or 7?

I only mention Jordan because I feel that would be the only realistic deal for KG.  No way Butler and Bledsoe gets it done (at least I sure hope not).

On paper,two young players would be great for KG but if one on them is locked in at $11M and is only doing 9 and 8, I can't see it.

The age is the big thing as it relates to bigs. Bigs take much longer to develop than smaller players and he continues to improve. This year his post game is much improved, but I don't think they posted him once today.

Per 36 minutes, which is what I would like him to play, he's averaging 13.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.1 blocks, and 60% from the field. By comparison, per 36 minutes, KG is averaging 17.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.2 bpg, and 50% from the field. One is 36, the other is 24 and rising. Plus Eric Bledsoe? The deal becomes a no brainer.

Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2013, 08:48:47 PM »

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If we trade KG for Bledsoe and Butler we are starting Collins and Bass in the front court.  That has lottery written all over it.
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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2013, 09:13:19 PM »

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If your gonna move Garnett you mine as well do this trade.

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Pierce probably only would want to go back to LA to play. He gets to move with KG and together make one last finals run. In return we get Bledsoe and Jordan, Butler to come off the bench for two years at half of Pierce's salary, an Odom's expiring.

In the summer we use Bledsoe, Bradley, Terry's contract and maybe Bass as trade bait along with our other assets to try and nab a big number one fish in the power forward department. Smith? Milsap? Jefferson?

Rondo/Barbosa
Lee/FA
Green/Butler
Jefferson/Sully
Jordan/Melo

A decent attempt at a future and some cap room?

I dont do it, I hate it actually. but if Ainge pulls the trigger I could see this making sense.


Great minds think alike. I think we could throw in Bass or Terry for Billups swap, and clear another 5/6 million in cap.

Out with the old, in with the new. It's gotta happen now, if the team wants to gain any kind of assets in the process. I suppose we could sit and wait for KG and Pierce contracts to expire. Maybe they both retire at the end of the year? But even if that's the case, wouldn't they rather go out playing in the finals with LAC, over getting spanked by the Heat as an 8-seed?

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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #86 on: February 03, 2013, 09:19:15 PM »

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If your gonna move Garnett you mine as well do this trade.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bajgpdd

Pierce probably only would want to go back to LA to play. He gets to move with KG and together make one last finals run. In return we get Bledsoe and Jordan, Butler to come off the bench for two years at half of Pierce's salary, an Odom's expiring.

In the summer we use Bledsoe, Bradley, Terry's contract and maybe Bass as trade bait along with our other assets to try and nab a big number one fish in the power forward department. Smith? Milsap? Jefferson?

Rondo/Barbosa
Lee/FA
Green/Butler
Jefferson/Sully
Jordan/Melo

A decent attempt at a future and some cap room?

I dont do it, I hate it actually. but if Ainge pulls the trigger I could see this making sense.

Great minds think alike. I think we could throw in Bass or Terry for Billups swap, and clear another 5/6 million in cap.

Out with the old, in with the new. It's gotta happen now, if the team wants to gain any kind of assets in the process. I suppose we could sit and wait for KG and Pierce contracts to expire. Maybe they both retire at the end of the year? But even if that's the case, wouldn't they rather go out playing in the finals with LAC, over getting spanked by the Heat as an 8-seed?

Yes sir. TP for just beating me to the punch.

I still don't think Clippers want to move Bledsoe until they're sure Paul will resign. Also, I think they're still contenders (and probably their GM thinks the same) so they would want to give it a go. They've got a 5% chance, and might as well keep this team intact.
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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2013, 09:55:50 PM »

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Jordan is in the Chandler mode.  His job is to protect the rim, rebound, and score around the hoop.  Those guys don't come cheap.  He's 20% overpaid, but that's not unusual for bigs in the NBA.

If the Clips offer DJ and Bledsoe for KG, and Garnett is on board enough to waive his no trade, it's a no brainer.  Boston gets a center to play  next to Sullinger for the future, and a very valuable PG who could either be a Rondo replacement, or a Microwave type 6th man.

Unless Ainge sees the Celtics being able to get past the Heat in the playoffs, he should rebuild now.  This is a good trade for a rebuilding team, and for the Clips, it gives them a better chance to win the title the next couple of years. The Clippers are going to struggle mightily in half court sets in the playoffs unless they can get a big who can shoot.   

Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2013, 10:56:51 PM »

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If your gonna move Garnett you mine as well do this trade.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bajgpdd

Pierce probably only would want to go back to LA to play. He gets to move with KG and together make one last finals run. In return we get Bledsoe and Jordan, Butler to come off the bench for two years at half of Pierce's salary, an Odom's expiring.

In the summer we use Bledsoe, Bradley, Terry's contract and maybe Bass as trade bait along with our other assets to try and nab a big number one fish in the power forward department. Smith? Milsap? Jefferson?

Rondo/Barbosa
Lee/FA
Green/Butler
Jefferson/Sully
Jordan/Melo

A decent attempt at a future and some cap room?

I dont do it, I hate it actually. but if Ainge pulls the trigger I could see this making sense.

Great minds think alike. I think we could throw in Bass or Terry for Billups swap, and clear another 5/6 million in cap.

Out with the old, in with the new. It's gotta happen now, if the team wants to gain any kind of assets in the process. I suppose we could sit and wait for KG and Pierce contracts to expire. Maybe they both retire at the end of the year? But even if that's the case, wouldn't they rather go out playing in the finals with LAC, over getting spanked by the Heat as an 8-seed?

Yes sir. TP for just beating me to the punch.

I still don't think Clippers want to move Bledsoe until they're sure Paul will resign. Also, I think they're still contenders (and probably their GM thinks the same) so they would want to give it a go. They've got a 5% chance, and might as well keep this team intact.
They would move him if they thought it would make them a true favorite, which KG does depending on what else is involved (they aren't gutting their bench or depth).
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Re: Clippers have inquired about KG
« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2013, 11:21:28 PM »

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