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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2013, 01:08:53 PM » |
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I look at it like this...I think we have a higher chance to luck out and get a top pick, than win a title.
Yeah, that's pretty much true. It's always easier to be a loser. Why compete when you can just quit instead? |
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2013, 01:09:04 PM » |
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I look at it like this...I think we have a higher chance to luck out and get a top pick, than win a title.
They've already won too many games to have any realistic chance at a top pick this year. |
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2013, 01:16:16 PM » |
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I look at it like this...I think we have a higher chance to luck out and get a top pick, than win a title.
They've already won too many games to have any realistic chance at a top pick this year.
Realistic? Probably, but it's a ton more realistic than us winning a title. |
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ScottHow
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2013, 01:17:41 PM » |
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I look at it like this...I think we have a higher chance to luck out and get a top pick, than win a title.
Yeah, that's pretty much true. It's always easier to be a loser. Why compete when you can just quit instead?
I don't really consider early playoff exits competing, but ok. |
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2013, 01:40:13 PM » |
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I look at it like this...I think we have a higher chance to luck out and get a top pick, than win a title.
Yeah, that's pretty much true. It's always easier to be a loser. Why compete when you can just quit instead?
I don't really consider early playoff exits competing, but ok.
Exactly. A first-round exit from the playoffs just sets the team up for mediocrity. There is a very great chance that KG/PP both retire at the seasons end as well, especially with this let-down kind of outcome. Ainge should at least offer to them both, the opportunity to be traded to contending teams. How are more people not remembering what happened with Ray Allen last year? I mean, that situation was much different, in that the whole team was available (although very banged up), persisted and was a game away from the finals. Are we really supposed to expect even this benchmark without Rondo, and now Sullinger? Pierce is nowhere near as consistent as he was last season. Green makes up for some of that lost production. Lee/Terry/Bradley make up for most of Ray Allen being gone. I dunno, call me negative, or a ship jumper, but I would rather see the rebuilding process catalyzed by making some smart trades now, and getting future assets/picks, as well as a higher pick for 2013/14. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2013, 02:05:43 PM » |
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If Bledsoe and Butler plus a 2013 1st rounder is the best offer out there for Garnett, I'd rather keep KG.
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the sun was setting
suddenly the sky turned blood red
I paused, feeling exhausted, and leaned on the fence
there was blood and tongues of fire above the blue-black fjord and the city
my friends walked on and I stood there trembling with anxiety
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2013, 02:06:10 PM » |
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Keep KG no matter what. Period.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2013, 02:14:46 PM » |
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Are we in contention for the title this year? I agree, we are not, some the old guys are likely to retire. So we blow it up.
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2013, 02:17:26 PM » |
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If we blow it up we immediately become a bad team that is difficult to watch.
The trade off is that we gain a slim chance to acquire a franchise player who could lead our franchise for the next decade and help us contend for a title (LBJ, Durant, Howard are the only I can think of recently).
I think it's terrible because I don't want to have to sit through years of watching a bad team and bad basketball. How many teams that have blown it up and been successful?
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2013, 02:25:14 PM » |
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If we blow it up we immediately become a bad team that is difficult to watch.
The trade off is that we gain a slim chance to acquire a franchise player who could lead our franchise for the next decade and help us contend for a title (LBJ, Durant, Howard are the only I can think of recently).
I think it's terrible because I don't want to have to sit through years of watching a bad team and bad basketball. How many teams that have blown it up and been successful?
At some point we are going to have to get bad to get good again. So I don't see why anyone would want to delay it. |
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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2013, 02:27:32 PM » |
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I dont really get the appeal of "blowing it up" likely it means you trade players away for pennys on the dollar. likely taking on bad contracts that will cripple the team for the forseeable future in Hopes of getting a #1 pick.
if it were that simple, teams like the Bobcats, Raptors would be contendors.
I'm also not sure why everyone is under the impression that KG/Pierce will retire after this year...Obviously when KG signed that 3year deal he wasnt thinking "ya im going to retire after this season"
who is to say we cant contend next year? ad with the way we are playing right now heck we could upset a few teams and make a run
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2013, 02:38:25 PM » |
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For this current season, since I think they're beyond the point into return in regards to effective tanking, I'd like to see them ride things out and see this team go down in a fight in the playoffs.
Explore the big changes in the offseason.
Blowing it up and praying for ping ping balls is not my cup of tea right now. Went through that nonsense in the mid 2000s and that blew,
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2013, 02:59:53 PM » |
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if you mean trading PP and KG blowing up ......then yes it sinks........terrible idea.
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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2013, 03:35:10 PM » |
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Blowing it up is really only a good idea when one thinks about it the abstract theoretical sense.
Trade away aging stars, acquire young building blocks, rebuild towards next dynasty.
Sounds nice.
But it won't happen.
Only contenders want Pierce or KG, and they want them to get them over the hump, so they won't give up much to get them. And picks from contending teams essentially mean nothing.
All we're likely to get is overpaid role players (to make salaries work) that won't net us anything down the road and likely won't even be around a few years from now.
It's just not worth it.
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