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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2013, 08:24:44 AM »
IDK just doesn't seem aggresive enough for me. I would love for Jeff to just be a solid 15ppg guy. I am afraid that won't happen though.

He has already proven that he is, he just needs the minutes to do so and its not going to happen backing up Pierce.

In his 2 and 1/2 season in OKC (no including his rookie year). He averaged:
08 - 09: 16.5ppg, 6.7 rebounds, shot 45%field and 39%three
09 - 10: 15ppg, 6rpg, and shot 45% and 33%
10 - 11: 15ppg, 5.6rpg and shot 43% and 30% (His worst year)

All at about 37 minutes per game.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2013, 09:01:02 AM »
He's the 4th best player on our team

This is a fantasy. He's at best the 6th and IMO more like the 8th strongest NBA player on the team.

I've said this many times before and after this summer's poor contract. What does Green do well? What's his NBA skill?

He's an average shooter, a poor rebounder, a terribly inconsistent defender, a wildly overrated passer, can't dribble with his left hand, doesn't move well without the ball, and his effort -- more often than not -- stinks.

Can someone reply to this and tell me what he does well? I'd rather have a very good NBA specialist as a role player (and associated salary) than a guy whose reputation... a silly one about 'pretty good at many things', in the first place... exceeds his game.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2013, 09:31:42 AM »
Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.

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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2013, 09:35:28 AM »
Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.


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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2013, 09:58:07 AM »
Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.

I know. I can not believe someone actually thinks Jeff Green is a top 5 SF in the league. Pretty soon I am going to see a title thread that says "Brian Scalabrine: The Man, the Myth, the Legend."

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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2013, 09:59:28 AM »
Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.

I know. I can not believe someone actually thinks Jeff Green is a top 5 SF in the league. Pretty soon I am going to see a title thread that says "Brian Scalabrine: The Man, the Myth, the Legend."


Just remove the "myth" part and it is completely true.


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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2013, 10:05:55 AM »
Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.

I know. I can not believe someone actually thinks Jeff Green is a top 5 SF in the league. Pretty soon I am going to see a title thread that says "Brian Scalabrine: The Man, the Myth, the Legend."


Just remove the "myth" part and it is completely true.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2013, 10:17:57 AM »
IDK just doesn't seem aggresive enough for me. I would love for Jeff to just be a solid 15ppg guy. I am afraid that won't happen though.

He has already proven that he is, he just needs the minutes to do so and its not going to happen backing up Pierce.

In his 2 and 1/2 season in OKC (no including his rookie year). He averaged:
08 - 09: 16.5ppg, 6.7 rebounds, shot 45%field and 39%three
09 - 10: 15ppg, 6rpg, and shot 45% and 33%
10 - 11: 15ppg, 5.6rpg and shot 43% and 30% (His worst year)

All at about 37 minutes per game.

Give him his minutes, let him fully return from surgery and we got an All-Star on our team.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2013, 10:18:10 AM »
Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.


The Thunder?

Haha. Burn.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2013, 10:43:40 AM »
I'm legitimately hopeful, like I tweeted today, that Jeff Green will be the player I know he can be: a top 5 SF in the league.
Why, are they going to do away with the position with Green being the lone exception?  even then he'd have trouble cracking the top 5   :-\
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2013, 11:29:16 AM »
He's the 4th best player on our team

This is a fantasy. He's at best the 6th and IMO more like the 8th strongest NBA player on the team.

I've said this many times before and after this summer's poor contract. What does Green do well? What's his NBA skill?

He's an average shooter, a poor rebounder, a terribly inconsistent defender, a wildly overrated passer, can't dribble with his left hand, doesn't move well without the ball, and his effort -- more often than not -- stinks.

Can someone reply to this and tell me what he does well? I'd rather have a very good NBA specialist as a role player (and associated salary) than a guy whose reputation... a silly one about 'pretty good at many things', in the first place... exceeds his game.

He's an elite finisher at the rim.  He's also a very good defensive playmaker. 
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2013, 11:49:59 AM »
He's the 4th best player on our team

This is a fantasy. He's at best the 6th and IMO more like the 8th strongest NBA player on the team.

I've said this many times before and after this summer's poor contract. What does Green do well? What's his NBA skill?

He's an average shooter, a poor rebounder, a terribly inconsistent defender, a wildly overrated passer, can't dribble with his left hand, doesn't move well without the ball, and his effort -- more often than not -- stinks.

Can someone reply to this and tell me what he does well? I'd rather have a very good NBA specialist as a role player (and associated salary) than a guy whose reputation... a silly one about 'pretty good at many things', in the first place... exceeds his game.

He's an elite finisher at the rim.  He's also a very good defensive playmaker.

I'd say his post game is better than Carmelo or James.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #72 on: January 23, 2013, 12:37:01 PM »
He's the 4th best player on our team

This is a fantasy. He's at best the 6th and IMO more like the 8th strongest NBA player on the team.

I've said this many times before and after this summer's poor contract. What does Green do well? What's his NBA skill?

He's an average shooter, a poor rebounder, a terribly inconsistent defender, a wildly overrated passer, can't dribble with his left hand, doesn't move well without the ball, and his effort -- more often than not -- stinks.

Can someone reply to this and tell me what he does well? I'd rather have a very good NBA specialist as a role player (and associated salary) than a guy whose reputation... a silly one about 'pretty good at many things', in the first place... exceeds his game.

He's an elite finisher at the rim.  He's also a very good defensive playmaker.

I'd say his post game is better than Carmelo or James.

Luckily, we have data for this.  In the post:

Lebron:  0.86 points per shot on 111 opportunities (40th in the league); shooting 42%; 4.5% turnovers
Carmelo:  0.97 points per shot on 158 opportunities (12th in the league); shooting 45.3%; 10.8% turnovers
Jeff Green:  0.69 points per shot on 67 opportunities (95th in the league); shooting 27.5%; 9% turnovers

So, Green scores much less frequently, shoots terribly, and turns the ball over the most.

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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2013, 12:52:09 PM »
Tell me this doesn't have the potential to make Jeff Green one of the better post-up players in the league.

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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2013, 12:56:23 PM »
Tell me this doesn't have the potential to make Jeff Green one of the better post-up players in the league.



Green is a solid low post wing.  The problem is, its time for him to go from potential to productivity.  He just is not aggressive enough, and he is terrible at dealing with any sort of pressure. 

And that is where he is different from guys like Lebron and Melo.  They can get in the post and beat and or make effective passes out of double teams.  Green doesn't.  He will just kick the ball back out, or take a bad shot. 

 

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