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By and large, both Celtics and Lakers fans here on the blog have been conducting themselves admirably. As we get more and more new members, however, it makes sense to emphasize our expected code of conduct for all fans.===========================================================================Ground rules for Celticsbloggers in regard to Lakers fans:1) Treat them with respect, please. Lakers fans are allowed to come on here and argue the merits of their team, and so long as they do so within the rules of this site, they are welcome here and will be protected by the staff as much as Celtics fans. (Ugh... defending Lakers fans. It kind of curdles the stomach, doesn't it? )2) Good-natured banter is okay, and please, argue vigorously. Do not, however, cross a line; we expect you to act civilly. The *last* thing the staff wants to do is to suspend anybody these next two weeks.3) Please report the trolls. The staff will be on the lookout, but rather than responding to baiting -- which only gets you in trouble -- please just ignore them and report them to the staff. Chances are somebody is going to be online to take care of them.4) Enjoy the series! I never thought I'd see another one Lakers/Celtics series again. This is as good as it gets in the NBA!===========================================================================To the Lakers fans:1) Welcome aboard. It's good to have more passionate, if wrong-minded, fans on the site.2) Please read our Posting Rules. Things are enforced pretty tightly here, but the most important rules is "respect others at all times". If you do that, you'll be fine here.3) Please do not troll or bait. The first example of such behavior will result in a ban. Inevitably, that will happen with a few of you (as it did in the Pistons series) but we're all hopeful it doesn't have to.4) In selecting a screen name, do not bait our membership. Screen names along the lines of "Lakers_sweep" or "Celtslose" will result in a ban from our site. It is fine to identify yourself as a Lakers fan (ie, "Lakerfan" or "blue_and_gold_lover"), so long as you do not denigrate the Celtics or otherwise insult Celtics fans with your name.5) Stay on topic, please. There's no need - and indeed, its inappropriate -- to reiterate that you think the Lakers will win in 5, or that you think Kobe dominates KG, in every thread.6) Prepare yourself to be traumatized. That has very little to do with Celticsblog, and much more to do with the Celtics. The entire world seems to be underestimating this team, and you're about to get a hurting.===========================================================================Let's make this as fun as possible, guys! It doesn't get too much better as an internet sports fan. Hopefully, a new generation of sports fans is about to learn why this is the greatest rivalry in basketball!
A situation in another thread necessitated that I post this reminder.Lakers fans are allowed to post on this blog. They're not allowed to troll or bait, but they're allowed to legitimately make points, so long as it is context appropriate. Insults aimed at our team or our players will not be tolerated -- and will be an automatic ban -- but legitimate debate is acceptable. We're taking care of the bad Lakers fans, but cut the intelligent and articulate ones some slack. Do not label others trolls, or make other personal attacks. You must abide by the rules at all times, regardless of who you're corresponding with. All that labeling posters results in is the destroying of interesting dialog. If somebody is trolling, report them to the staff. I don't want to have to remind people again. This is a big week for us, and the absolute last thing I want to do is come down harshly on Celtics fans, because they allowed themselves to be baited. Just use the "report to a moderator" button, please.
By request, I'm bumping this thread. Feel free to substitute "Bulls", "Magic", etc. for "Lakers" above. These are really just a reminder of our every day rules, for anybody who hasn't seen them / read them yet.
Lately, there have been way to many posts along the following lines:QuoteThis is a dumb thread . . .QuoteI wish I could give this thread negative Tommy Points . . .QuoteDo you even watch the games? I'm surprised a real fan would say that . . .QuoteWorst trade idea ever . . .QuoteThis thread is a massive FAIL . . .The above are examples, because I didn't want to signal anybody out individually. However, statements like those above violate our rules, because they're inherently disrespectful and devolve debate.I'm sure every single one of us has come across a thread before and thought "What the heck is this idiot talking about?" It's fine to think that, but when choosing whether or not to post in the thread, please use discretion. Basically, follow the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" rule.It's very possible to debate without belittling or mocking others. There are going to be times when we all vigorously disagree with others. That's completely fine, just please remember that when debating, things have to remain civil.Basically, we don't want to have people leaving here with their feelings hurt. Let's all remember that we're on the same side here.
This is a dumb thread . . .
I wish I could give this thread negative Tommy Points . . .
Do you even watch the games? I'm surprised a real fan would say that . . .
Worst trade idea ever . . .
This thread is a massive FAIL . . .
Lately, several members have seemingly forgotten CelticsBlog's rules and standards of decorum. There have been literally dozens of posts along the lines of "This thread should be deleted" / "This thread is moronic" / "I wish we could give negative TPs." Usually, these posts are in response to a thread that in some way criticizes a Celtic, which in turn resorts to the exceedingly immature "I'm a bigger Celtic fan that you" peeing contests. Many posters have apparently adopted a viewpoint that it's okay to gang up on people simply because that person doesn't have a popular opinion. That couldn't be further from the truth.Over the last several weeks, the staff has posted dozens of warnings, which have been largely ignored. Let this serve as a final warning, then: if you personally attack somebody by using language of the type cited above, you will be suspended. It doesn't matter if this is a first offense, it doesn't matter if 14 other people in the thread were doing the same thing. Point blank, suspensions will be given, no exceptions. Nobody is happy about this solution, but we've been left with no choice. If people don't want to comply with the rules, and want to repeatedly ignore staff warnings, then we're going to have to be stricter in our enforcement. We appreciate the hundreds and thousands of members who are able to disagree civilly; for those who can't, it's time to modify your behavior, or move on.If you have any questions about the policy, post them here.
Official Draft Moderating Rules: 1) Observe Celticsblog Posting Rules at all times. You can see them here: Posting Rules2) Don't make debates personal. Always phrase things in the objective. 'Youre letting our personal differences affect your perception of my team' is a no-no. If you feel like there is a personal bias against you, refer it to the commishes or a moderator, or attempt to settle it diplomatically in private. Public feuds will have no place here.3) Do not condescend to other posters. 'Do you even understand basic math?' is a no-no. 'Do you even understand rebound rate?' Is a no-no. 'This is a simple idea, you should have no problem understanding it' is a no-no. If you legitimately think that people don't understand something, explain it. But don't mock others, and don't accuse others of willful obstinacy. People won't always agree with you, or how you think things should work, get over it and move on. 4) Do not willfully go against the wishes of the commissioners and/or moderators. If they say, 'Please take this type of thing to PM', take it to Private Message, or drop it. If they say, 'Please drop this, it's counter productive', drop it, or take it to private message. If you disagree with a commish's request, bring it to the commish, or another commish, or a mod, privately. 5) Do not bait other posters/players. 'Thanks for making me laugh, no way is Seattle a top 5 team' is a no-no.6) Do not mock other players. 'The fact that you can't even understand the basic premise behind per-36 stats goes a long way to explaining why you drafted Michael Beasley in the 3rd round.' is a no-no.7) All drafts are subject to staff approval. Commissioners are expected to coordinate with the CelticsBlog staff regarding timing of drafts, and should clear draft rules with the staff. All commissioners, including those on the CelticsBlog staff, are expected to enforce rules and to moderate the draft in a consistent and fair manner.8 ) Public criticism of official action in any CelticsBlog draft is allowed, but should be confined to the dedicated thread in the Comments and Remarks forum, unless specifically allowed elsewhere by the Commissioner(s) of the draft.9) The basic goal of all drafts is to have fun. There is an expectation that drafts will be run with principles of fair play in mind. Rules shall be clear and as evenly applied as possible, and will not be changed retroactively. Punishment, if necessary, shall be consistent, and will include a chance for the alleged rule breaker to be heard. All Commissioners have power to act in the best interests of their league, but only in extreme circumstances that compromise the basic fairness of the league.Except for those last two, these are all already, again, in the Posting Rules. 'So why make a point of posting them again here?', asks someone. That's because we, as moderators, have always faced a sticky dilemma with these drafts. Basically, we want the games to continue, we want you guys to get somewhat 'into it', and that inevitably results in the competitive natures of all of us coming out, at least a little. The problem is when it comes out too much. People get persecution complexes, and predictably real, or, nearly always imagined, vendettas manifest. Some people very suddenly, for lack of a better phrasing, become irrational jerks, often in such a manner that A) Means the game becomes less fun for those as yet unaffected by the 'rage virus', and B) Often results in the quitting, banning, or even suspension of the infected, which in the very least short-circuits the game an in the worst, completely throws the game off its rails. So now we're introducing a new way we're going to moderate these games. We're making the guidelines public so you know where you stand, and there is no misunderstandings about the punishments. The goal here with a tiered warning system is to make sure that problems are headed off before they start, without having to resort to more severe forms of punishment. This is a 3-strikes and you're out policy. Three private warnings from commissioners or moderators will result in you losing privileges to access the drafts. This will apply across all CB Drafts, and will not only be applicable to the one you lost privilege to. You can petition for reinstatement later on, but it will be a good long time and a decent amount of convincing to let you back in the fold. This also doesn't mean that you will always get the full 3-strikes. As always, moderators reserve the right to lay down whatever penalties they see fit for posts that go above and beyond, so don't think this new set of rules means you get two free viscous pot shots at whoever you want to be as much of a jerk as you want. It doesn't.We don't want to take all the teeth out of the draft, but too often things are allowed to escalate in the name of allowing the game to take its course, and in the end the only thing we can really do according to site rules is a lengthy suspension or outright ban. We don't want that, you don't want that. This is supposed to help. These rules are in affect immediately.