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Sources: The Houston Rockets have waived former Celtics first-round pick R.J. Hunter, who was on a two-way deal.

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Figured either him or James young would make it in the league. Truly fringe players.

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A shooting specialist who can't shoot is lucky to even get a chance at this point in his career.

I don't know if I've ever seen a player whose stroke looked so much better than the results. Really odd player.

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Figured either him or James young would make it in the league. Truly fringe players.

If you could somehow take all of Danny's non-lottery picks over the last 10 years, and assemble them all into one draft class, where you'd rank them based solely on your opinion of them when they were drafted, I'd think I'd have Young and Hunter near the top of that list (along with Sully and JJJ, and maybe Harangody as a dark horse).

Who would have guessed Avery Bradley and E'Twaun Moore would end up at the top of the list, with Rozier now looking to surpass them (obviously jury is still out on more recent guys though).

After 18 months with their Bigs, the Littles were: 46% less likely to use illegal drugs, 27% less likely to use alcohol, 52% less likely to skip school, 37% less likely to skip a class

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A shooting specialist who can't shoot is lucky to even get a chance at this point in his career.

I don't know if I've ever seen a player whose stroke looked so much better than the results. Really odd player.

I agree with this. He duped me. His jumpshot looks so pretty. Curry-esque.

He's like the greatest con-artist of all-time. Every time he shot, I thought would be the beginning of his hot streak where he'd finally turn his percentages around.

In fact, I still think that.

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A shooting specialist who can't shoot is lucky to even get a chance at this point in his career.

I don't know if I've ever seen a player whose stroke looked so much better than the results. Really odd player.

I agree with this. He duped me. His jumpshot looks so pretty. Curry-esque.

He's like the greatest con-artist of all-time. Every time he shot, I thought would be the beginning of his hot streak where he'd finally turn his percentages around.

In fact, I still think that.

And his misses often weren't even close!  It'd look super pure coming off the hand and then clank wildly off the side of the rim.  A lot of teams have a "no, no, no - YES!" shooter, we somehow found the first "yes, yes, yes - NO!" guy.

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Good kid, but a step slow for the NBA and never could get that shot falling, not even in the G-League....

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Figured either him or James young would make it in the league. Truly fringe players.

If you could somehow take all of Danny's non-lottery picks over the last 10 years, and assemble them all into one draft class, where you'd rank them based solely on your opinion of them when they were drafted, I'd think I'd have Young and Hunter near the top of that list (along with Sully and JJJ, and maybe Harangody as a dark horse).

Who would have guessed Avery Bradley and E'Twaun Moore would end up at the top of the list, with Rozier now looking to surpass them (obviously jury is still out on more recent guys though).

You forgot Delonte and Tony Allen, who IMO relegate the guys in your first paragraph to closer to “somewhat above average” except Harangody who IMO would be a better prospect now but wasn’t significant then. Very good college player though.

EDIT- I’d also put Big Baby and Powe ahead of JJJ and LH as title contributors.
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Figured either him or James young would make it in the league. Truly fringe players.

If you could somehow take all of Danny's non-lottery picks over the last 10 years, and assemble them all into one draft class, where you'd rank them based solely on your opinion of them when they were drafted, I'd think I'd have Young and Hunter near the top of that list (along with Sully and JJJ, and maybe Harangody as a dark horse).

Who would have guessed Avery Bradley and E'Twaun Moore would end up at the top of the list, with Rozier now looking to surpass them (obviously jury is still out on more recent guys though).

You forgot Delonte and Tony Allen, who IMO relegate the guys in your first paragraph to closer to “somewhat above average” except Harangody who IMO would be a better prospect now but wasn’t significant then. Very good college player though.

EDIT- I’d also put Big Baby and Powe ahead of JJJ and LH as title contributors.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I was looking only at last 10 years, because I personally think that's when Danny hit a drafting drought.

After 18 months with their Bigs, the Littles were: 46% less likely to use illegal drugs, 27% less likely to use alcohol, 52% less likely to skip school, 37% less likely to skip a class

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The 2015 draft was very weak.  Only 8 of the 32 players picked after Hunter are still (or have ever been) in the league, and only 35 in total, with several just barely clinging on to a career (Okafor being the most noteworthy).  I’d be willing to bet that by the time the draft is four years past, so next year, fewer than half will be around.  That feels historically low.  Maybe not as bad as whichever draft graced us with Moiso, but it was a rough year to have four picks.

At least Ainge and co were able to quickly separate the wheat from the chaff post-draft.  Rozier has been very valuable, and quickly moving on from the others meant they didn’t take on salary or roster space that could have been greatly better utilized.
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Figured either him or James young would make it in the league. Truly fringe players.

If you could somehow take all of Danny's non-lottery picks over the last 10 years, and assemble them all into one draft class, where you'd rank them based solely on your opinion of them when they were drafted, I'd think I'd have Young and Hunter near the top of that list (along with Sully and JJJ, and maybe Harangody as a dark horse).

Who would have guessed Avery Bradley and E'Twaun Moore would end up at the top of the list, with Rozier now looking to surpass them (obviously jury is still out on more recent guys though).

You forgot Delonte and Tony Allen, who IMO relegate the guys in your first paragraph to closer to “somewhat above average” except Harangody who IMO would be a better prospect now but wasn’t significant then. Very good college player though.

EDIT- I’d also put Big Baby and Powe ahead of JJJ and LH as title contributors.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I was looking only at last 10 years, because I personally think that's when Danny hit a drafting drought.
Al Jefferson was picked 15th in 2004. I put him ahead of all those guys.

For the last 10 years only, I have to go with Sully.

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Figured either him or James young would make it in the league. Truly fringe players.

If you could somehow take all of Danny's non-lottery picks over the last 10 years, and assemble them all into one draft class, where you'd rank them based solely on your opinion of them when they were drafted, I'd think I'd have Young and Hunter near the top of that list (along with Sully and JJJ, and maybe Harangody as a dark horse).

Who would have guessed Avery Bradley and E'Twaun Moore would end up at the top of the list, with Rozier now looking to surpass them (obviously jury is still out on more recent guys though).

I'm pretty surprised about Moore. Must be an ideal teammate and employee. He got lucky by landing on that team, which had so many more important roster problems that he could keep getting by. Good for his great grandkids.

And I'm really surprised Sully is out. He knew how to play.

I see the case for a drought, or regression toward the mean... but he's gotten much, much better at managing the roster and making trades for now and later. Early on, the draft was about all he had.  We were in rough shape.

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The 2015 draft was very weak.  Only 8 of the 32 players picked after Hunter are still (or have ever been) in the league, and only 35 in total, with several just barely clinging on to a career (Okafor being the most noteworthy).  I’d be willing to bet that by the time the draft is four years past, so next year, fewer than half will be around.  That feels historically low.  Maybe not as bad as whichever draft graced us with Moiso, but it was a rough year to have four picks.

At least Ainge and co were able to quickly separate the wheat from the chaff post-draft.  Rozier has been very valuable, and quickly moving on from the others meant they didn’t take on salary or roster space that could have been greatly better utilized.

Imagine coming out of that draft with Rozier and Josh Richardson. :o Ugh.


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A shooting specialist who can't shoot is lucky to even get a chance at this point in his career.

I don't know if I've ever seen a player whose stroke looked so much better than the results. Really odd player.

I always thought that he was a better passer, and perhaps even a better defender, than he was a shooter. I'm not sure as to whom he compares, though. Like, Marco Belinelli without a jumper, despite the fact that that makes as to absolutely no sense, at all? Lol. ;D

In retrospect, and much like Slightly Biased Bias Fan's thread concerning James Young, iirc, the first sign that things might not work out with Hunter, for me, was as to when I saw this story, and I regret that I did not post it at the time -

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Korver took Hunter to lunch when he was in college to chat "about shooting and the whole pro process," and the two built a relationship from there. Their bond has been helpful, Hunter said, but he still hasn't fully grasped Korver's long list of shooting mechanics.

"He taught me his process. But I lost focus," Hunter laughed. "It was like step 30, and I was like, 'Bruh, have you shot the ball yet?' It's just crazy. But to have that focus, that's why he shoots the way he shoots.

"Everything is so meticulous and step-by-step with him. And I think that's why he shoots 50 percent because every time he misses he knows why, because it's such a step-by-step (process). Every time I talk to him I just try to ask him how he gets so consistent. And I think he just has it down to a T."

Korver has explained his complicated 20-point checklist to USA Today's Jeff Zilgitt. The lifetime 43.2-percent 3-point shooter says he can pinpoint whatever causes him to miss a shot.

"It's crazy," said Hunter. "And it's something that nobody else talks about, the things he does. That's why he's so good. It's like, elbow, eyebrow, shoot. So it's kind of crazy.

"He knows why it misses. Me, I'm kind of just a rhythm guy, like, I kind of just let it go. But I think if I can get to the point where I think about my shot, I think that'd be easier."

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I remember catching a lot of flak for saying I thought Roxier would be the better shooter than Hunter after their first preseason. I just saw a guy that as good as his form was, couldn't hit his shots. That was from seeing him in college, the summer league and preseason. He just couldn't make shots. It is baffling. He should be a good shooter.