Annual "celtics have fringe stars" ESPN post.

[jambr380]

I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?

Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.

[Moranis]

Come on it was based on the last 3 seasons (when both Irving and Hayward have missed significant time) and actual finishes on All NBA Teams or in RPM.  Now RPM is a silly statistic, but those rankings have absolutely nothing to do with the current season or where they project players will end up this year.  Not surprisingly lots of overreaction on this blog.

[smokeablount]

I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?

Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.

I feel like if you judge CP3's resume / reputation, championship excluded, you could rate him really high.  IMO but speaking objectively, he's probably one of the 5 best PGs of all time.

What I find even stranger is Lillard is something like a 9 right, and Kyrie is a 2?  Lillard seems like one of the better comps for Kyrie as an individual player, but Kyrie has a ring and more AS appearances despite being years younger... and he's less than 25% of Lillard?  Huh?  That's simply indefensible.

I didn't click on the article because I don't want to give ESPN traffic, but I'm tempted to check it out because it will help me quickly and very simply reverse engineer which basketball statistics are utterly useless.

[Moranis]

I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?

Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.

The first paragraph pretty clearly explains their points. 

▪Five points: First-team All-NBA or a top-5 finish in RPM

▪Three points: Second-team All-NBA or a top-10 finish in RPM

▪One point: Third-team All-NBA, All-Star selection or a top-15 finish in RPM

They took the last 3 seasons.

Chris Paul got 15 points because in each of the last 3 seasons he was either 1st Team All NBA or finished in the top 5 in RPM. 

It really is that simple.

[BitterJim]

Well, I guess this confirms it: the Cavs won the Kyrie trade. They got a 3 star player, while we just got a two star player.

[dang].

[RockinRyA]

Come on it was based on the last 3 seasons (when both Irving and Hayward have missed significant time) and actual finishes on All NBA Teams or in RPM.  Now RPM is a silly statistic, but those rankings have absolutely nothing to do with the current season or where they project players will end up this year.  Not surprisingly lots of overreaction on this blog.

And not surprisingly, you defend anything anti-celtic.

[ETNCeltics]

Who cares? That Kyrie wasn't all nba last season makes it an irrelevant honor, other than it can help overrated players like KAT get a supermax. 

[mef730]

TP to OP for the funny subject line.

Mike

[BringToughnessBack]

I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?

Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.

Chris Paul and Karl Malone.....so many titles between them

[johnnygreen]

I didn't read enough of the article to get a feel for how the points system really worked, but how is Chris Paul a 15-pt player, while Kyrie is only 2? When Kyrie was in Cleveland, he was a super-duper star, but now he is barely worth a mention?

Also, don't worry Hayward/Cs fans - KAT and Beal also rated out as 1-pt players.

Chris Paul and Karl Malone.....so many titles between them

Could you imagine a Finals matchup between Chris Paul and John Stockton? Who would finally get that elusive championship? I say Chris Paul gets injured 5 minutes into game one and ends up missing the series. His backup does a decent enough job and helps his team win the title. John Stockton loses another Finals, while Chris Paul gets no credit because he missed virtually the entire series.