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Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2018, 09:56:35 PM »

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As a New Yorker, I can safely say Cuomo is an idiot. He’s the same guy that recently told a story that he unknowingly admitted committing a crime.

I can’t wait until this guy is out of here. His father was great, he’s getting by on his name.

He’s always saying headline-worthy stuff, and he continuously gets the attention he seeks.

He’s often in “hot water” over remarks.
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Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2018, 09:57:29 PM »

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But, if you look at the Trump slogan of Make America Great Again, isn't he saying America isn't great now?

He definitely suggested it wasn't great as of 2016.  He's just waiting until the 2020 election to plagiarize the "It's morning in America again..." campaign.


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Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2018, 10:20:52 PM »

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Cuomo stupidly said what he did rather than prefacing his remarks with America is great but.....

But, if you look at the Trump slogan of Make America Great Again, isn't he saying America isn't great now?

Doesn't matter, dude. Trump and his supporters will almost certainly continue to see that as being the fault of Obama, and therefore, in their minds, Cuomo saying stuff like this is only further proof that Democrats are out to ruin this country. ::) I think. Actually no idea, lol. ;D

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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2018, 10:25:25 PM »

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The plain and simple truth is that Trump’s MAGA phrase is a dog whistle for make America white again. And if you are white, as many of us are here, maybe America was great in the past for you. But it also wasn’t for a lot of people.

And as i’m sitting in Vietnam right now after just visiting the War Museum, I can tell you America has actively gone out of its way to make itself pretty terrible in the not so recent past.

Is that the War Remnants Museum? #YesIJustGoogledIt ;D

Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2018, 12:09:54 AM »

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As a non-American, but as someone who follows American politics as if it affects me directly (which it does, as the leading world influence), I have to say it is encouraging to hear the kind of mature thinking about this which I have come to expect from my CBlog brothers and sisters.

This must be a very difficult time for Americans to come to terms with what is happening, in terms of the most pernicious political strategy of all: which is wrapping oneself in the flag, and hiding behind the one of the bravest militaries on earth to deflect criticism of policy makers and political rhetoric.
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Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2018, 12:11:29 AM »

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But, if you look at the Trump slogan of Make America Great Again, isn't he saying America isn't great now?

He definitely suggested it wasn't great as of 2016.  He's just waiting until the 2020 election to plagiarize the "It's morning in America again..." campaign.
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Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2018, 01:03:12 AM »

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As a black woman, I wholeheartedly agree with Cuomo. Better than the day before is what we are and hopefully what we will continue to be.

As a 1st generation middle eastern person, my father would tell about the horrors he had to endure growing up in the craphole war torn country he came from, and how grateful I should be to live in, and grow up, here in America. Those lessons never left me. My dad, came to this country with $600 in his pocket and an acceptance letter to Northeastern. Today he is an everyday millionaire, the kind that invested and worked hard his entire life. We live in the greatest Meritocracy the world has ever known, history is crystal clear on this. That goes for all people regardless of race or gender.

America is only not great when compared to a non-existent utopia.

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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2018, 06:13:32 AM »

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The plain and simple truth is that Trump’s MAGA phrase is a dog whistle for make America white again. And if you are white, as many of us are here, maybe America was great in the past for you. But it also wasn’t for a lot of people.

And as i’m sitting in Vietnam right now after just visiting the War Museum, I can tell you America has actively gone out of its way to make itself pretty terrible in the not so recent past.
War is always terrible but sometimes necessary.  The Soviet Union, North Vietnamese, Viet Cong, etc weren't the good guys in the Cold War.
I highly suggest watching the untold history of the United States on Netflix it will give you a whole different perspective on the lead up to the Cold War and the Cold War itself, we were very far from innocent protectors of peace.

Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2018, 06:15:43 AM »

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Cuomo stupidly said what he did rather than prefacing his remarks with America is great but.....

But, if you look at the Trump slogan of Make America Great Again, isn't he saying America isn't great now?

Since an 8th grader could come up with a better critical essay discussing the campaign slogan, you'd think Cuomo would have figured something at least slightly clever that would have clarified and criticized at the same time ... Make America Great for All! -and then went on his bit about sexism, racism, maybe throw in a little generational poverty.

But nope...

Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2018, 08:48:06 AM »

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Cuomo stupidly said what he did rather than prefacing his remarks with America is great but.....

But, if you look at the Trump slogan of Make America Great Again, isn't he saying America isn't great now?
Since an 8th grader could come up with a better critical essay discussing the campaign slogan, you'd think Cuomo would have figured something at least slightly clever that would have clarified and criticized at the same time ... Make America Great for All! -and then went on his bit about sexism, racism, maybe throw in a little generational poverty.

But nope...
not a bad slogan at all for Dems to use in 2020 -- TP - should be working on their campaign.

Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2018, 09:52:45 AM »

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Classic bulletin board material for politicians.

America being "great" is sort of the "player X is overrated/underrated". It's a relative assessment and depends on perception and comparison. It can both always be true and always be false at the same time.

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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2018, 11:55:22 AM »

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America: I'm into it, but I feel like we can be better!

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Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2018, 12:14:57 PM »

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Did the great Cuomo say what country was great?

I couldn't speak for Mr. Cuomo, but for my money: Bermuda.

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Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2018, 12:22:25 PM »

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As a black woman, I wholeheartedly agree with Cuomo. Better than the day before is what we are and hopefully what we will continue to be.

As a 1st generation middle eastern person, my father would tell about the horrors he had to endure growing up in the craphole war torn country he came from, and how grateful I should be to live in, and grow up, here in America. Those lessons never left me. My dad, came to this country with $600 in his pocket and an acceptance letter to Northeastern. Today he is an everyday millionaire, the kind that invested and worked hard his entire life. We live in the greatest Meritocracy the world has ever known, history is crystal clear on this. That goes for all people regardless of race or gender.

America is only not great when compared to a non-existent utopia.

That's all great and I'm happy for you. But you must understand your father's testimony is that of an exceptional person and comes from a certain time in our nation's history. My parents were Italian and German. They are both beautiful, prosperous countries now, but in their lifetimes, they were once craphole war torn countries that would make Syria look like Mr. Roger's neighborhood. Things can change in one or two generations.

Meritocracy is great, and we all grew up believing in it. But everyone can't be exceptional. The testimony of the other 98% matters too.


Re: Gov. Andrew Cuomo Say American Was Never that Great!
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2018, 01:51:41 PM »

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As a black woman, I wholeheartedly agree with Cuomo. Better than the day before is what we are and hopefully what we will continue to be.

As a 1st generation middle eastern person, my father would tell about the horrors he had to endure growing up in the craphole war torn country he came from, and how grateful I should be to live in, and grow up, here in America. Those lessons never left me. My dad, came to this country with $600 in his pocket and an acceptance letter to Northeastern. Today he is an everyday millionaire, the kind that invested and worked hard his entire life. We live in the greatest Meritocracy the world has ever known, history is crystal clear on this. That goes for all people regardless of race or gender.

America is only not great when compared to a non-existent utopia.

That's all great and I'm happy for you. But you must understand your father's testimony is that of an exceptional person and comes from a certain time in our nation's history. My parents were Italian and German. They are both beautiful, prosperous countries now, but in their lifetimes, they were once craphole war torn countries that would make Syria look like Mr. Roger's neighborhood. Things can change in one or two generations.

Meritocracy is great, and we all grew up believing in it. But everyone can't be exceptional. The testimony of the other 98% matters too.

Not everyone can be exceptional, but everyone can benefit from exceptionality. And the most successful systems at fostering exceptionality are meritocracies. I don't think that can be discounted.