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Idea: CJ McCollum
« on: August 15, 2018, 06:30:04 PM »

Offline Jvalin

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(assuming Danny believes that Kyrie plans to leave next summer via free agency)

Boston in: McCollum
Boston out: Irving, Morris

NY in: Irving
NY out: Courtney Lee, Ntilikina, Knox

Portland in: Courtney Lee, Morris, Ntilikina, Knox
Portland out: McCollum

Feel free to add pick(s) if necessary.



http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y97jmev5


Why for Boston?
- The whole scenario is based on the assumption that Kyrie plans to leave in 2019 via free agency.
- Kyrie is not exactly an iron man whereas McCollum has only lost 5 regular season games in the last 3 seasons.
- I believe McCollum would make a great score-first PG. Imo, he can never realize his full potential while playing alongside Lillard. Sort of like Harden and Westbrook at OKC.
- McCollum's contract expires in 2021 (2 extra years under team control).


Why for NY?
- They get a 26-year-old superstar in Kyrie.
- They clear about 22 million in cap space for next season.
- They then go after Butler in free agency (rumor has it that Kyrie and Butler want to team up next summer).


Why for Portland?
- Portland have invested a lot in Lillard and McCollum and they’re not making progress. I mean, they got swept by the Pels in the first round. It's possible that they decide to part ways with McCollum (especially if they get off to a bad start next season).
- They get two battle-hardened vets in positions of need (Lee - Morris) and two promising prospects (Ntilikina - Knox). To put it another way, they stay competitive this year while at the same time they build for the future.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2018, 07:04:45 PM by Jvalin »

Re: Idea: Irving-McCollum swap
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2018, 06:34:10 PM »

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We have a chance to win a title this year. There is a pretty steep price to give up that chance in my opinion. In a playoff game Irvings shot creation is of huge value. Switching in someone like McCollum we take a huge step back and may not even make the finals.

Re: Idea: Irving-McCollum swap
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 06:43:50 PM »

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(assuming Danny believes that Kyrie plans to leave next summer via free agency)
I'm not doing that tho
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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 07:04:03 PM »

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not trading Irving. If he leaves, he leaves.

You don't make trades that take you further away from a championship. Irving > McCollum. Boston walks.
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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 07:10:16 PM »

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Might as well trade Horford for Clint Capela while we’re at it.
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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 07:25:10 PM »

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McCollum is not a PG. A really good 2 guard.


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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 07:36:52 PM »

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If Kyrie is gonna leave I sure hope he tells Danny sooner rather than later

Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2018, 08:20:06 PM »

Offline Jvalin

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McCollum is not a PG. A really good 2 guard.
Did you believe Harden could thrive at PG when he was playing next to Westbrook?

Obviously, McCollum starts at SG, but he regularly plays backup PG to Lillard. The way I see it, he has what it takes to make a great score-first PG.

- 6'3 with shoes (just as Kyrie), 6'6 wingspan (2 inches longer than Kyrie's)
- can create his own shot
- can create for his teammates
- tight handles
- 3.4 assists, 1.9 t/o last season

Problem is, he cannot start at PG cause the Blazers already have Lillard.

In the 20 games Lillard has missed and McCollum has played over the past three seasons, McCollum averaged 26.9 points and 5.3 assists.

Imo, if Danny decides to move on from Kyrie, McCollum is hands down the best player we can realistically target via trade.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 07:40:01 AM by Jvalin »

Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2018, 08:35:38 PM »

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Might as well trade Horford for Clint Capela while we’re at it.
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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2018, 08:45:56 PM »

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If we know for certain that Irving is leaving, I’d definitely make that trade.  I agree with everything the OP said.  McCollum would be a great replacement.  He can do a lot of the things that Kyrie can do.  He can certainly play point guard on this team.  Even Irving gives up the playmaking duties to Smart and Rozier a lot of the time.   McCollum would be perfect.  If we aren’t sure Irving wants to leave, I obviously wouldn’t make the trade.

Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2018, 08:58:17 PM »

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Unless Irving says that he's leaving after this season and there is no reason for him to do so, Danny is not going to trade Irving. 

Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2018, 09:21:47 PM »

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Since it's summer, and there's nothing else going on, I'm take this opportunity to rail on CJ McCollum.

To me, the dude just looks like he was born 25 years too late.  Like he would have been perfect on A Different World or in one of those late 80's/early 90's new jack swing groups.




And his podcast sucks.  Ever sit near a couple (or maybe even have been that person) on a first date with no chemistry, and you hear the guy pepper the girl with questions trying to get to know her,  but you can tell there's probably not going to be a 2nd date?  That's what McCollum sounds like on his podcast.

Ok rant over.

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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2018, 10:28:14 PM »

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- Kyrie is not exactly an iron man whereas McCollum has only lost 5 regular season games in the last 3 seasons.


Really? He's got one hell of a winning percentage.

Look I'm a huge CJ fan, but:

1. Kyrie is better than CJ. You don't make a trade when you don't get the better player.

2. CJ is not a point guard.
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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2018, 11:00:43 PM »

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Since it's summer, and there's nothing else going on, I'm take this opportunity to rail on CJ McCollum.

To me, the dude just looks like he was born 25 years too late.  Like he would have been perfect on A Different World or in one of those late 80's/early 90's new jack swing groups.




And his podcast sucks.  Ever sit near a couple (or maybe even have been that person) on a first date with no chemistry, and you hear the guy pepper the girl with questions trying to get to know her,  but you can tell there's probably not going to be a 2nd date?  That's what McCollum sounds like on his podcast.

Ok rant over.
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Re: Idea: CJ McCollum
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2018, 06:36:05 AM »

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I like it. CJ McCollum gives you 95% of what Kyrie does and is actually likeable (unlike Kyrie).

McCollum could certainly play PG in this system. The PG gets loads of help from the rest of the players in this system.