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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24349948/nba-champs-predictions-espn-summer-forecast

Total points

East
1. Celtics - 153
2. Toronto - 83
3. Philadelphia - 53

West
1. Golden State - 165
2. Houston - 89
3. Oklahoma City - 16

Champ
1. Golden State - 165
2. Boston - 70
3. Houston - 35

Apparently Golden State got every #1 vote in the Finals to win it all, so 165 points is a sweep of all first place votes. So, Boston at 153 to win the East is very impressive.

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 03:53:21 PM »

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Yeah, I'm surprised that BOS is so heavily favored. I'm trying to temper my expectations b/c I do believe this Celtics team can be amazing. I imagine that the rest of the country is soon going to jump on the bandwagon like they did with Houston last year.

I think it is safe to say that the Celtics are the 2nd best team in the NBA after Houston's summer.

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 03:54:22 PM »

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I'm predicting close to the same but I think the C's are winning it all.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 03:58:51 PM »

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With Kyrie and Hayward returning, and with the additional power boosts of Tatum and Brown followed by a deep bench, I can see why the C's are 2nd most favorite.

If they can stop the Big 5 of the Warriors, I can see them going all the way. Just hope the Lakers do not win a title before we do.

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I think Boston should have the 2nd best title odds, but I do think the Rockets would also be favored over Boston in the Finals.  I just think the odds of the Rockets beating the Warriors are so small that it probably wouldn't be an issue.  That said, I do think Toronto will be a very tough out for the Celtics and the rest of the upper end of the East (Bucks, Pacers, Sixers, and Wizards) is rising so it won't be a cakewalk to even make the Finals. 

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Celtics will win it all. 

I am sick of Golden State already.

I don't see the Lakers in the top rankings. Sick of them, too.
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Celtics will win it all. 

I am sick of Golden State already.

I don't see the Lakers in the top rankings. Sick of them, too.
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Toronto is the wild card.  Kawhi Leonard is an upgrade over DeMar DeRozan.  It is too be seen if Leonard is going to get past all his issues but if he does, Toronto will be a tough out for the Celtics.  I am not worried about the Sixers but I am worried about the Bucks to some degree.  The Celtics should be the preseason favorite to will the East.

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2018, 02:33:36 AM »

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Toronto is the wild card.  Kawhi Leonard is an upgrade over DeMar DeRozan.  It is too be seen if Leonard is going to get past all his issues but if he does, Toronto will be a tough out for the Celtics.  I am not worried about the Sixers but I am worried about the Bucks to some degree.  The Celtics should be the preseason favorite to will the East.

DeMar DeRozan still was giving you 23 ppg in the regular season and playoffs. The Raptors still need to replace that. Leonard will take up some of that but not all. He is a better all around player, but DeRozan was still one of the best scorers in the league and he was surprisingly efficient too. Then you add in Leonard already has one foot out the door to the Lakers and that will be a story all year in Toronto.

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Toronto is the wild card.  Kawhi Leonard is an upgrade over DeMar DeRozan.  It is too be seen if Leonard is going to get past all his issues but if he does, Toronto will be a tough out for the Celtics.  I am not worried about the Sixers but I am worried about the Bucks to some degree.  The Celtics should be the preseason favorite to will the East.

DeMar DeRozan still was giving you 23 ppg in the regular season and playoffs. The Raptors still need to replace that. Leonard will take up some of that but not all. He is a better all around player, but DeRozan was still one of the best scorers in the league and he was surprisingly efficient too. Then you add in Leonard already has one foot out the door to the Lakers and that will be a story all year in Toronto.
If, and it's a big if, Kawhi returns to '16-'17 form, when he was arguably the second best player in the world, then I think the Raps will be a huge pain. However, the odds of that happening are pretty well unknown.

PG was supposed to have one foot out the door to the Lakers too

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Toronto is the wild card.  Kawhi Leonard is an upgrade over DeMar DeRozan.  It is too be seen if Leonard is going to get past all his issues but if he does, Toronto will be a tough out for the Celtics.  I am not worried about the Sixers but I am worried about the Bucks to some degree.  The Celtics should be the preseason favorite to will the East.

DeMar DeRozan still was giving you 23 ppg in the regular season and playoffs. The Raptors still need to replace that. Leonard will take up some of that but not all. He is a better all around player, but DeRozan was still one of the best scorers in the league and he was surprisingly efficient too. Then you add in Leonard already has one foot out the door to the Lakers and that will be a story all year in Toronto.
Not sure how you can say that Leonard won't replace those 23 ppg when in Leonard's last healthy year he averaged 25 ppg in the regular season and 28 ppg in the playoffs.  He will be the focal point of the Raptors and should be able to replace all of DeRozan's scoring and greatly improve on DeRozan's defense.

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Toronto is the wild card.  Kawhi Leonard is an upgrade over DeMar DeRozan.  It is too be seen if Leonard is going to get past all his issues but if he does, Toronto will be a tough out for the Celtics.  I am not worried about the Sixers but I am worried about the Bucks to some degree.  The Celtics should be the preseason favorite to will the East.

DeMar DeRozan still was giving you 23 ppg in the regular season and playoffs. The Raptors still need to replace that. Leonard will take up some of that but not all. He is a better all around player, but DeRozan was still one of the best scorers in the league and he was surprisingly efficient too. Then you add in Leonard already has one foot out the door to the Lakers and that will be a story all year in Toronto.
Not sure how you can say that Leonard won't replace those 23 ppg when in Leonard's last healthy year he averaged 25 ppg in the regular season and 28 ppg in the playoffs.  He will be the focal point of the Raptors and should be able to replace all of DeRozan's scoring and greatly improve on DeRozan's defense.
Yep and in addition is a much better outside shooter which should help with their overall spacing.  Leonard is a big upgrade on DeRozan. 

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Toronto is the wild card.  Kawhi Leonard is an upgrade over DeMar DeRozan.  It is too be seen if Leonard is going to get past all his issues but if he does, Toronto will be a tough out for the Celtics.  I am not worried about the Sixers but I am worried about the Bucks to some degree.  The Celtics should be the preseason favorite to will the East.

DeMar DeRozan still was giving you 23 ppg in the regular season and playoffs. The Raptors still need to replace that. Leonard will take up some of that but not all. He is a better all around player, but DeRozan was still one of the best scorers in the league and he was surprisingly efficient too. Then you add in Leonard already has one foot out the door to the Lakers and that will be a story all year in Toronto.
Not sure how you can say that Leonard won't replace those 23 ppg when in Leonard's last healthy year he averaged 25 ppg in the regular season and 28 ppg in the playoffs.  He will be the focal point of the Raptors and should be able to replace all of DeRozan's scoring and greatly improve on DeRozan's defense.
Setting aside health issues, Leonard has played for one team and one coach, generally regarded as the best in the NBA. He was brought along gradually and his offensive game took a number of years to develop. He's always played with elite 3 point shooting and great ball movement. He is also unusual in that while he is a superstar, he's also an introvert, and does not naturally assert alpha dog status. He may have some trouble remapping his offensive game to a new team.

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Toronto is the wild card.  Kawhi Leonard is an upgrade over DeMar DeRozan.  It is too be seen if Leonard is going to get past all his issues but if he does, Toronto will be a tough out for the Celtics.  I am not worried about the Sixers but I am worried about the Bucks to some degree.  The Celtics should be the preseason favorite to will the East.

DeMar DeRozan still was giving you 23 ppg in the regular season and playoffs. The Raptors still need to replace that. Leonard will take up some of that but not all. He is a better all around player, but DeRozan was still one of the best scorers in the league and he was surprisingly efficient too. Then you add in Leonard already has one foot out the door to the Lakers and that will be a story all year in Toronto.
Not sure how you can say that Leonard won't replace those 23 ppg when in Leonard's last healthy year he averaged 25 ppg in the regular season and 28 ppg in the playoffs.  He will be the focal point of the Raptors and should be able to replace all of DeRozan's scoring and greatly improve on DeRozan's defense.
Setting aside health issues, Leonard has played for one team and one coach, generally regarded as the best in the NBA. He was brought along gradually and his offensive game took a number of years to develop. He's always played with elite 3 point shooting and great ball movement. He is also unusual in that while he is a superstar, he's also an introvert, and does not naturally assert alpha dog status. He may have some trouble remapping his offensive game to a new team.

While thereís no real evidence to support this, Iíve been thinking similar thoughts. If Brad Stevens is Popovich 2.0 and good players here almost always look significantly worse after they leave (Olynik withstanding) then maybe a #15 pick (I think) who thrived under Pop could play worse elsewhere?
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