So says former Cavs GM David Griffin. I would assume Utah would have matched on Hayward but assuming not what would that Cavs team have been over the last few seasons. They likely don't make the Love trade or the Smith/Mozgov trade so they would have been Irving, Waiters, Hayward, Wiggins, Ariza, Thompson, Frye, Varejao, Bennett, Delly. Does that team eventually make the Finals (let's assume LeBron stays in Miami at least for a couple more seasons) or would they peak more like the Raptors?