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Re: Current Roster
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2018, 01:12:52 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Re: Current Roster
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2018, 01:27:44 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
2019 historical draft.  Pick 12

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Re: Current Roster
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2018, 02:15:22 PM »

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I think the starting five will include Irving, Brown, Tatum, Horford, and Hayward . I understand the value of Baynes on D, but I think that five is the best unit. People are focusing too much on the supposed second unit. There are not that many times when all five starters will be on the bench at the same time. It will be easy enough for Brad to manage the rotations to keep a starter on the floor if the second unit needs it. There is no need to put Tatum or Brown on the bench.

Re: Current Roster
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2018, 02:56:05 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
i must of missed the thread that talks about how the celtics traded for lebron or durant.
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Re: Current Roster
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2018, 03:24:12 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
i must of missed the thread that talks about how the celtics traded for lebron or durant.

You clearly missed the threads when Tatum was a frosh at Duke where I stated he was the best player in the draft and would be the top player in the NBA within his first 3 years.  He is the most. Sedative scorer the NBA has ever seen. 
2019 historical draft.  Pick 12

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Re: Current Roster
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2018, 08:32:58 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
i must of missed the thread that talks about how the celtics traded for lebron or durant.

You clearly missed the threads when Tatum was a frosh at Duke where I stated he was the best player in the draft and would be the top player in the NBA within his first 3 years.  He is the most. Sedative scorer the NBA has ever seen.
Jeesh. I'm all aboard the Tatum hype train, but this is silly
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Current Roster
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2018, 08:36:37 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
i must of missed the thread that talks about how the celtics traded for lebron or durant.

You clearly missed the threads when Tatum was a frosh at Duke where I stated he was the best player in the draft and would be the top player in the NBA within his first 3 years.  He is the most. Sedative scorer the NBA has ever seen.
Jeesh. I'm all aboard the Tatum hype train, but this is silly
Yup. Heck as much as people love to say Tatum is going to be great, and I think he will, I am still not convinced he will be a better player than Jaylen Brown. They both have silly upside.

Re: Current Roster
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2018, 08:38:14 PM »

Offline gouki88

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
i must of missed the thread that talks about how the celtics traded for lebron or durant.

You clearly missed the threads when Tatum was a frosh at Duke where I stated he was the best player in the draft and would be the top player in the NBA within his first 3 years.  He is the most. Sedative scorer the NBA has ever seen.
Jeesh. I'm all aboard the Tatum hype train, but this is silly
Yup. Heck as much as people love to say Tatum is going to be great, and I think he will, I am still not convinced he will be a better player than Jaylen Brown. They both have silly upside.
Can't say I'm complaining though ;D

Two of the best wing prospects in the league alongside Kyrie, Hayward, Al and Coach Stevens isn't fair for everyone else
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Current Roster
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2018, 08:42:54 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
i must of missed the thread that talks about how the celtics traded for lebron or durant.

You clearly missed the threads when Tatum was a frosh at Duke where I stated he was the best player in the draft and would be the top player in the NBA within his first 3 years.  He is the most. Sedative scorer the NBA has ever seen.
Jeesh. I'm all aboard the Tatum hype train, but this is silly
Yup. Heck as much as people love to say Tatum is going to be great, and I think he will, I am still not convinced he will be a better player than Jaylen Brown. They both have silly upside.
Can't say I'm complaining though ;D

Two of the best wing prospects in the league alongside Kyrie, Hayward, Al and Coach Stevens isn't fair for everyone else
Which is the way it should be. The natural order coming back into place.

Re: Current Roster
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2018, 08:43:38 PM »

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Kyrie        -   Smart     -  Wanamaker
Brown      -   Rozier    -   Bird
Hayward  -   Morris    -   Semi
Tatum      -   Theis      -   Yabu
Horford    -   Baynes   -  Williams

I believe we 'll end up trading at least one of Morris-Rozier-Yabu. Not necessarily during the offseason. We have plenty of time till the trade deadline.

Morris --> in order to avoid the tax
Rozier --> cause otherwise we 'll lose him for nothing (assuming we keep Kyrie-Smart)
Yabu --> dead wood

Should Brad Stevens use Tatum in a Kevin McHale type of role? Have Theis start in his place at PF, while Tatum is the SF/PF for the second unit. The starting unit does not need Tatum to start the game. However, the second unit and the team overall, will greatly benefit by having less of a dropoff in scoring with Tatum coming off the bench. It would also allow Tatum to be more aggressive offensively, which may also speed up his game as an elite go to scorer. Obviously, Tatum would transition throughout the game to play with the first unit too, and completely replace Theis in the fourth quarter. Brad already uses Marcus Smart in a similar type of role, with him coming off the bench but still basically playing starter minutes. I don't think or expect it will happen, but I also don't see a downside either. Maybe the dog days of the summer offseason have gotten the best of me today and I'm totally misguided at the moment.

So have the greatest player in the NBA come off of the bench?

Are we talking about the same Jayson Tatum that averaged just under 14 ppg last season? I love his game and I think he will be a great player. Having said that, most elite scorers in the league get their start on bad teams, and become the teams #1 scoring option early in their careers. Jayson will probably be the third scoring option in the starting unit. However, Tatum would be the clear #1 scoring option on the second unit. Part of me thinks, having Jayson come off the bench as the #1 scoring option would expedite his process of becoming an elite scorer. Don't get me wrong, he is already a very gifted player offensively but he was also inconsistent too. I see it more like a regular season investment this season, that could pay huge dividends come playoff time.

Like I said, I don't think it will happen. I also don't think the expectations change if Tatum starts or comes off the bench, as far as being the favorties to win the East. This idea isn't to play him only with the second unit. It's more of the Kevin McHale role, where he comes off the bench, but he still plays starter minutes and remains with the first unit in the fourth quarter.

Yes, the Tatum who took his game no another level when injuries took their goal.  The same Tatum that has been working incredibly hard this offseason to lead us to the title. 

I have no issue if Brown comes off the bench, but you don’t put the greatest player in the NBA on the bench.
i must of missed the thread that talks about how the celtics traded for lebron or durant.

You clearly missed the threads when Tatum was a frosh at Duke where I stated he was the best player in the draft and would be the top player in the NBA within his first 3 years.  He is the most. Sedative scorer the NBA has ever seen.
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2018, 09:12:54 PM »

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I think the starting five will include Irving, Brown, Tatum, Horford, and Hayward . I understand the value of Baynes on D, but I think that five is the best unit. People are focusing too much on the supposed second unit. There are not that many times when all five starters will be on the bench at the same time. It will be easy enough for Brad to manage the rotations to keep a starter on the floor if the second unit needs it. There is no need to put Tatum or Brown on the bench.

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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2018, 11:06:46 PM »

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All things being normal this roster should give teams fits because of it's depth. Opponents will never know where the dagger will come from. Between Kyrie, Tatum, Brown, Hayward, even T-Ro. Good luck finding many poor shooting nights.

As long as they play team ball, look for the open man and feed the hot hand they should be a pleasure to watch.


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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2018, 06:34:33 AM »

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If we can just get hot from three for the ECF and the Finals. Banner 18 baby.
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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2018, 06:40:14 AM »

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I have two questions

Could Theis, Irving and Hayward get DNPs early in the season as they work back?

Can C's depth lead to Spurs type handling of their stars with giving them rest?

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I have two questions

Could Theis, Irving and Hayward get DNPs early in the season as they work back?

Can C's depth lead to Spurs type handling of their stars with giving them rest?
I doubt either Irving or Hayward will get many, if any DNPs early in the season. I don't see that as productive in any way, considering that they'll (barring any injury between now and then) be fully healthy.

However, I could definitely see us giving some rest to Al, Gordon and Kyrie, assuming we have a top 2 seed comfortably locked up. Which we should
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