Mixed messages about Kyrie’s future

[tonydelk]

Honestly what a player says a full year before their contract is up means nothing to me.  No one thought Paul George would resign with the Thunder.  There are multiple reasons why I feel there is so much contradiction with his statements.  Any time you hear players what to play together people jump to conclusions.  It's been out there for years that Melo and Paul wanted to team up with LBJ and they could have this year.  Did they?  So the Butler rumors are out there.  Then the LBJ rumors of taking a meeting with Boston could have upset him.  Did it even happen?  Nope.  So now that all of the smoke is dwindling away there are statements he is happy in Boston.  The media will pump up these situations as much as possible until they are over.  Everyone thought the Paul George Documentary about his FA journey absolutely meant he was gone.  I feel Kyrie will stay in Boston. 

Reasons
1) Money.  No one can offer him more
2) Championships.  No one can offer him a better chance unless he teams up with LBJ or goes to GSW
3) Face of Franchise.  Other teams can offer this.  NY especially but Boston is not that far from NY and his family.
4) Boston - history franchise.  Winning in Boston is unlike winning with any other team.  You become part of a history only LA can come close to matching. 

Taking all the factors

[Jvalin]

Kyrie would be foolish to walk away from Boston

He has already walked away from a championship contending team in Cleveland. I bet the Cavs fans didn't expect him to bolt either.

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Anyway, let's just assume for a moment that Danny is actually afraid that Kyrie plans to leave next summer via free agency. What do you guys believe Danny should do? Keep him and battle it out for the title or trade him? And even if Danny decides to trade him, what's the best deal we could possibly get? I mean, assuming Kyrie wants to go to NY, we 'd practically have zero leverage in trade talks. It's the Kawhi situation all over again!

If Kyrie wants to bolt, Danny needs to do everything he can to trade for Kemba.

Fair enough. What about Kyrie though? Keep him or trade him?

[Fafnir]

Kyrie would be foolish to walk away from Boston

He has already walked away from a championship contending team in Cleveland. I bet the Cavs fans didn't expect him to bolt either.

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Anyway, let's just assume for a moment that Danny is actually afraid that Kyrie plans to leave next summer via free agency. What do you guys believe Danny should do? Keep him and battle it out for the title or trade him? And even if Danny decides to trade him, what's the best deal we could possibly get? I mean, assuming Kyrie wants to go to NY, we 'd practically have zero leverage in trade talks. It's the Kawhi situation all over again!

If Kyrie wants to bolt, Danny needs to do everything he can to trade for Kemba.

Problem is even if Kyrie is dead set on leaving, I don't see why he'd tell Boston that. Better to contend this year than potentially getting sent to some crappy team like Charlotte as part of a talent acquisition to replace him.

So much cap space in 2019-2020 around the league likely means he doesn't need a trade to get to where he wants to go.

[Roy H.]

Kyrie would be foolish to walk away from Boston

He has already walked away from a championship contending team in Cleveland. I bet the Cavs fans didn't expect him to bolt either.

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Anyway, let's just assume for a moment that Danny is actually afraid that Kyrie plans to leave next summer via free agency. What do you guys believe Danny should do? Keep him and battle it out for the title or trade him? And even if Danny decides to trade him, what's the best deal we could possibly get? I mean, assuming Kyrie wants to go to NY, we 'd practically have zero leverage in trade talks. It's the Kawhi situation all over again!

If Kyrie wants to bolt, Danny needs to do everything he can to trade for Kemba.

Fair enough. What about Kyrie though? Keep him or trade him?

We would have to trade him, probably in the same deal.

Let’s hope it doesn’t get to that point.

[footey]

Why should Kyrie profess loyalty to Boston before becoming a free agent?

Because he’s a Celtic and it eliminates a distraction.  It’s not like it’s binding.

The yahoo article in the OP compares Kyrie’s approach  to Kemba Walker’s.  I think most fans appreciate the “I’m a Celtic, and hopefully I’m always a Celtic” response.

The world has changed. Danny has had a lot to do with that.

[Jvalin]

Kyrie would be foolish to walk away from Boston

He has already walked away from a championship contending team in Cleveland. I bet the Cavs fans didn't expect him to bolt either.

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Anyway, let's just assume for a moment that Danny is actually afraid that Kyrie plans to leave next summer via free agency. What do you guys believe Danny should do? Keep him and battle it out for the title or trade him? And even if Danny decides to trade him, what's the best deal we could possibly get? I mean, assuming Kyrie wants to go to NY, we 'd practically have zero leverage in trade talks. It's the Kawhi situation all over again!

False. Cleveland was already on the cusp of being riddled with mediocre and overpaid veteran contracts. The rumblings and rumors of LeBron leaving once again also added onto to the annoyance of Kyrie.

It's amazing how easily you can tell when some people just don't like a player, but it is astounding to me how many users here are blatantly negative about our team's positive outlook and future. But sure, keep riding the train of cynicism.....

What exactly is false? All I said was

1. The Cavs were championship contenders
2. The Cavs fans didn't expect Kyrie to bolt Cleveland

It's not false to say that, but it's also a bit devoid of context.

Kyrie most likely saw the writing on the wall with LeBron almost guaranteed to leave, and he didn't want to be stuck in Cleveland with KLove and ... nobody else of note. The situation isn't comparable at all to Boston, where we have a plethora of talent secured for years and years to come, and with more talent on the way in the shape of picks

People keep saying this, but it doesn't really make much sence to me. Kyrie is about to hit free agency in 2019. How would he be stuck in Cleveland?

[Fafnir]

People keep saying this but it doesn't really make much sence to me. Kyrie is about to hit free agency in 2019. How would he be stuck in Cleveland?

Even for a high level player, you have what a 15 year career in the NBA? And about 6-8 years in your prime?

Kyrie spending 25% of his prime (and 13% of your career) somewhere he didn't want to be is a big deal. Plus he probably thought they were going to end up trading him, they almost did after all.

[gouki88]

People keep saying this but it doesn't really make much sence to me. Kyrie is about to hit free agency in 2019. How would he be stuck in Cleveland?

Even for a high level player, you have what a 15 year career in the NBA? And about 6-8 years in your prime?

Kyrie spending 25% of his prime (and 13% of your career) somewhere he didn't want to be is a big deal. Plus he probably thought they were going to end up trading him, they almost did after all.

Said it better than I could

[Jvalin]

People keep saying this but it doesn't really make much sence to me. Kyrie is about to hit free agency in 2019. How would he be stuck in Cleveland?

Even for a high level player, you have what a 15 year career in the NBA? And about 6-8 years in your prime?

Kyrie spending 25% of his prime (and 13% of your career) somewhere he didn't want to be is a big deal. Plus he probably thought they were going to end up trading him, they almost did after all.

It's one thing to say that he didn't wanna be in Cleveland and a whole nother thing that he was afraid of being stuck there. Not to mention, the Cavs were second favourites to win the title in 2017-18. It isn't as if he would be stuck in a dead end situation or something.

[johnnygreen]

I don't really understand the constant concern (and trade proposals) surrounding Irving's future, just because he won't comment publicly about signing an extension. For all we know, Kyrie, Danny, and ownership have already had discussions about an extension, and that Kyrie will sign an extension when he can max out but doesn't want those discussions to become public knowledge.

I think Kyrie likes having fun with the media and fans by trolling them and seeing how far he can get away with a story line. Don't forget, a lot of people still buy into Kyrie's "flat Earth theory". You don't think he's laughing every time he sees a story pop up questioning his future and driving fans nuts? If it was me, I would be having a blast with this story line and doing the same thing Kyrie's doing.

[Fafnir]

People keep saying this but it doesn't really make much sence to me. Kyrie is about to hit free agency in 2019. How would he be stuck in Cleveland?

Even for a high level player, you have what a 15 year career in the NBA? And about 6-8 years in your prime?

Kyrie spending 25% of his prime (and 13% of your career) somewhere he didn't want to be is a big deal. Plus he probably thought they were going to end up trading him, they almost did after all.

It's one thing to say that he didn't wanna be in Cleveland and a whole nother thing that he was afraid of being stuck there. Not to mention, the Cavs were second favourites to win the title in 2017-18. It isn't as if he would be stuck in a dead end situation or something.

He would be stuck in just such a situation this year though, and again he wanted out because they tried to trade him. Spending another year where you are miserable with LBJ would suck, and then another year after he bailed on the team and suddenly ownership pretending your the cornerstone after they just tried to trade you?

That sounds like a pretty bad two years for Kyrie, once it was clear he was unhappy. He very well might have dealt with one more LBJ year if he thought Gilbert was willing to build around him, but that clearly wasn't the case because they just tried to trade him for Bledsoe/George.

[Monkhouse]

People keep saying this but it doesn't really make much sence to me. Kyrie is about to hit free agency in 2019. How would he be stuck in Cleveland?

Even for a high level player, you have what a 15 year career in the NBA? And about 6-8 years in your prime?

Kyrie spending 25% of his prime (and 13% of your career) somewhere he didn't want to be is a big deal. Plus he probably thought they were going to end up trading him, they almost did after all.

It's one thing to say that he didn't wanna be in Cleveland and a whole nother thing that he was afraid of being stuck there. Not to mention, the Cavs were second favourites to win the title in 2017-18. It isn't as if he would be stuck in a dead end situation or something.

Worst case? Lol... So you waste two of your years playing with a team next to Kevin Love, Kyle Korver, JR Smith, Tristan Thompson? (Who by the way thinks he will have his career season with LeBron gone.  )

Many times LeBron dictated the roster, and ownership. Is it really surprising that Kyrie got sick and tired of being in that situation?

[johnnygreen]

If Kyrie didn't believe in the management and ownership in Cleveland, then why would he have any interest in going to even worse scenarios in New York and Brooklyn? Those two teams may be in the bottom ten run organizations in the league.

[saltlover]

If Kyrie didn't believe in the management and ownership in Cleveland, then why would he have any interest in going to even worse scenarios in New York and Brooklyn? Those two teams may be in the bottom ten run organizations in the league.

Brooklyn has been very well run since they cleared house of the guys whom Danny Ainge ripped off.

[Birdman]

I say Kyrie got tired of Lebron running the team and blaming everyone else..i dont blame him one bit for leaving cleveland..also paul george probably didnt want to play with james either cause of same reason