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This one is easy for me. Romney is an adult. I prefer conservatives to centrists in many areas, but most of all I want leaders who attempt to unite rather than divide. Itís why Reagan and JFK still inspire people, and why Obamaís 2008 campaign was so successful: people like an aspirational America. Romney isnít Reagan, but heís not Trump, either.Itís also a reason why we should refrain from demonizing people just because theyíre of the other party. Do that enough, and it creates a sense of complacency and tune out when thereís a real demon at the gates.
. A more challenging question for you is are you still happy with voting for Trump over Clinton?
Quote. A more challenging question for you is are you still happy with voting for Trump over Clinton?Sadly, thatís still not challenging. If you replaced Hillary with somebody like Joe Manchin or Joe Donnelly , I might be able to get behind him.
If I'm following the premise correctly, you're asking would people rather have a guy who was caught on tape not caring about the '47%' over someone who did. Also, this approach would have rewarded the Republicans in Congress for constantly stonewalling Obama since the 2010 midterms when they took over Congress (and really the 2 years prior to that).I'll still take Obama over Romney. What turned me off of Romney was that he constantly trashed the healthcare system he drove to create in Mass. it was his signature legislative win while he was governor. if he's that scummy to disavow his proudest accomplishment for political expediency, he's not someone I'd vote for.If I'm going to re-invent history in a what-if, I'll take the Republican party nominating anyone but Trump in 2016. I'll do the reach-across-the-aisle move here and say that the one good thing that came from Trump winning the election is it should be the final nail in the coffin for Hillary running for president again.
Letís make an assumption that if Romney wins in 2012 he also wins in 2016, and that Trump never becomes a political force.Which of the following would you prefer:Obama 2012 - Trump 2016 - possibility of Trump 2020Romney 2012 - Romney 2016 - unknown 2020
well, that IS sad. When Trump's presented as the Republican candidate and you can't consider voting Democrat in that instance, I don't know what to say.
Quote from: Roy H. on July 23, 2018, 06:18:29 AMLetís make an assumption that if Romney wins in 2012 he also wins in 2016, and that Trump never becomes a political force.Which of the following would you prefer:Obama 2012 - Trump 2016 - possibility of Trump 2020Romney 2012 - Romney 2016 - unknown 2020A lot of people are making up their own options to this question which are easy ways out while not addressing the hypothetical at hand, which is challenging to answer. I was a big Obama fan, but I am dissatisfied enough with Trump that I think I'd choose Romney, but will have to look deeper into it.Would the ACA be overturned under Romney? - I think not since they could not overturn it in a Trump WH that has a Republican House and Senate. Senate went Republican in 2015 so it's possible it could go then, but I'm not sure it would sweep the Republican Senators. So likely no difference there.Regulatory Effects - Trump has basically undone everything that Obama did in this regard and gone further. I think some sensible regulations are often a good thing, so I would prefer Romney.Guns - Obama was anti-guns, but it didn't really do anything. Trump is very pro guns. Romney is probably somewhere in the middle. Overall, there probably would be little to no difference.International/Foreign Affairs - When traveling abroad, Obama was well respected by people of other countries and that reflected positively on their opinions of Americans as well. GW Bush on the other hand was not respected. I haven't traveled a lot in the last two years, but having heard stories from others I think Trump has done a lot of damage in that regard and Romney would be the better option.OK I'm getting tired of doing this and someone else can take on immigration, gay/women/minority rights, international and domestic terrorism, but so far I would lean towards 8 years of Romney rather than 4 Obama and 4 Trump.
A more challenging question for you is are you still happy with voting for Trump over Clinton?
Quotewell, that IS sad. When Trump's presented as the Republican candidate and you can't consider voting Democrat in that instance, I don't know what to say.Did you stop reading halfway through? Or do you just have strong opinions without knowing who Manchin and Donnelly are? Iíd consider voting Democrat, just not for Clinton.