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Would you swap Tatum for Davis if it was the Pels asking price

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Would you do Davis for Tatum essentially 1 for 1
« on: July 23, 2018, 12:30:21 AM »

Offline slightly biased bias fan

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If this season Davis becomes disenfranchised and other then cap fillers, New Orleans just wanted Tatum...would you do it? Do you think Ainge and Wyc would pull the trigger?

I know this topic has been exhausted but given Tatumís rapid rise Iíd love to gauge peoples opinions again.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2018, 12:32:39 AM »

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The problem is that we donít have cap fillers.

But in a hypothetical world, yes.


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Re: Would you do Davis for Tatum essentially 1 for 1
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 12:59:50 AM »

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Without a shadow of a doubt. I think Tatum is a phenomenal prospect, and will be a perennial All-Star. That being said, I don't think he'll reach the ridiculous level Anthony Davis is playing at.

Over the last 2 seasons, AD has averaged 28.1/11.4/2.2/2.4/1.4 on 52/32/81 splits.

How about after DMC went down, AD averaged 30/12/2/3/2. Basically what he averaged in the playoffs too. When AD is the sole big he is hands down the best big man in the league, and does it on both ends of the court. He's also put two healthy seasons up in a row.

This conversation doesn't really do anything though, as we'd have to trade Kyrie alongside JT for salary (or Brown, Morris, Rozier, and Yabu).

Re: Would you do Davis for Tatum essentially 1 for 1
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 01:06:11 AM »

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No. There is a chance that Tatum is the next Durant. Not a small chance, a larger than average chance. Anyone with eyes who saw Tatum do what he did during the season then during the playoffs knows superstardom is in his future


Also Tatum is cost controlled.

Also Tatum doesn't have the injury history of davis.


Most execs around the league believe Tatum is untradeable

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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2018, 01:21:05 AM »

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I think it is becoming a harder decision as time goes on, it looks like Tatum may be 6'10-11 in shoes and could be still growing. Paul George is around the 6'9-10 range and here we can see he is obviously taller than him.



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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2018, 01:38:54 AM »

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No. There is a chance that Tatum is the next Durant. Not a small chance, a larger than average chance. Anyone with eyes who saw Tatum do what he did during the season then during the playoffs knows superstardom is in his future


Also Tatum is cost controlled.

Also Tatum doesn't have the injury history of davis.


Most execs around the league believe Tatum is untradeable
There is not a larger than average chance that Tatum becomes arguably the best scorer post-2000.

Re: Would you do Davis for Tatum essentially 1 for 1
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2018, 03:23:09 AM »

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Yes.

We already have Hayward in a redundant position.
Slide Horford to PF.
Start Davis at C.

Win baby win.

Re: Would you do Davis for Tatum essentially 1 for 1
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2018, 03:27:19 AM »

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No. There is a chance that Tatum is the next Durant. Not a small chance, a larger than average chance. Anyone with eyes who saw Tatum do what he did during the season then during the playoffs knows superstardom is in his future


Also Tatum is cost controlled.

Also Tatum doesn't have the injury history of davis.


Most execs around the league believe Tatum is untradeable
There is not a larger than average chance that Tatum becomes arguably the best scorer post-2000.
why not? Tatums the best wing prospect in the past 5 years of drafts.  That doesnít guarantee anything but certainly increases his chances of being the next Durant. Tatum can score from anywhere on the floor, so why would he have. Problem being the next great scorer in the nba?

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2018, 04:23:18 AM »

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This seems like the type of trade that both teams would be hesitant to pull the trigger on but ultimately both teams would be happy they did.

Potential at his age, Tatum is as good as there is in this league.

Talent at his age, Davis is arguably the best right now.
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Re: Would you do Davis for Tatum essentially 1 for 1
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2018, 05:47:27 AM »

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No. There is a chance that Tatum is the next Durant. Not a small chance, a larger than average chance. Anyone with eyes who saw Tatum do what he did during the season then during the playoffs knows superstardom is in his future


Also Tatum is cost controlled.

Also Tatum doesn't have the injury history of davis.


Most execs around the league believe Tatum is untradeable
There is not a larger than average chance that Tatum becomes arguably the best scorer post-2000.
why not? Tatums the best wing prospect in the past 5 years of drafts.  That doesnít guarantee anything but certainly increases his chances of being the next Durant. Tatum can score from anywhere on the floor, so why would he have. Problem being the next great scorer in the nba?
Because 'larger than average chance' suggests that it's more likely than not that JT develops into a scorer of Durant's caliber. Which is simply not true. Kevin Durant is a top 5 all time scorer per game, and is a 7 foot tall wing with guard ball handling skills. I would say he's the best scorer we've seen since MJ.

There is so much that would have to go right for JT to achieve that level of scoring that I think it is simply incorrect to say that the chance is anything above small. Plus, on a team with as many scoring options as we have, like KI - a proven championship level scorer - or Hayward - a proven number 1 option on a #5 seed in the West - alongside JB and Al, it is hard to foresee Tatum getting much higher than 25ppg

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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2018, 06:04:26 AM »

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It's interesting if you compare Tatum's rookie season to Davis' it is very compatible. They were both 19 years old and their per 36 min comparison:

Tatum: 16.4 PPG, 5.2 TRB, 1.9 AST, 1.2 STL, 0.9 BLK, 1.7 TOV, .475 FG%, .826 FT%, .434 3P%
Davis: 16.9 PPG, 10.2 TRB, 1.2 AST, 1.5 STL, 2.2 BLK, 1.7 TOV, .516 FG%, .751 FT%, .000 3P%

You could even say Tatum's per 36 was diminished being on a contender rather than a lottery team.

Full statistical comparison: http://bkref.com/tiny/DAA8q

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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2018, 01:19:15 PM »

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In the new world order of the NBA, Tatum is going to have more value than the brow.  I'll keep Tatum and let the others next year start making these trade offers about him because he's a superstar.
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Re: Would you do Davis for Tatum essentially 1 for 1
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2018, 01:22:17 PM »

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You guys are insane if you wouldn't trade Tatum for Davis straight up.  That is the easiest trade to make in the world. 

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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2018, 01:28:25 PM »

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Davis is much better than Tatum is now and substantially better than we could reasonably hope for Tatum to be.  But injury risk, rookie contract+RFA rights and a large dose of homerism make me reluctant in spite of knowing how lopsided it is on paper.  Good thing I don't get a vote!

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2018, 01:29:49 PM »

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You guys are insane if you wouldn't trade Tatum for Davis straight up.  That is the easiest trade to make in the world.
Only 4 insane so far.  Irving, Brown, Hayward, Horford, Davis would be killer.   GSW who?