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Does Yabs have an NBA future?

No, I thought he was the French Draymond but he's the French Jared Sullinger.
20 (52.6%)
Yes, he the Dancing freaking Bear!
13 (34.2%)
I'm against the French stealing American jobs.
5 (13.2%)

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Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2018, 12:07:35 AM »

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If sully had that physique, we'd have ourselves a nice 4! Sully was really awesome in some ways ... but physique was not one of them. Held him back and cut his career.

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2018, 12:12:36 AM »

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I don’t see him ever developing into a valuable NBA player.

Y’all should pay attention to what I say because I said the same thing about Avery Bradley and Terry Rozier.

Both AB and Rozier had great physical attributes for their position, great length and tremendous athleticism. They just needed time to learn to play the NBA game.

Yabu lacks both the length and hops to play NBA 4/5. He'll never be able to finish over length and will probably always be a liability defensively. His only hope is to become a high level playmaker on the 2nd unit

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2018, 12:36:51 AM »

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Didn't think he was an NBA player back then, nothing so far to contradict.
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Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2018, 12:37:55 AM »

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If sully had that physique, we'd have ourselves a nice 4! Sully was really awesome in some ways ... but physique was not one of them. Held him back and cut his career.

Sully had skills, his physical limitations did him in. Guy was just too ground bound

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2018, 12:56:37 AM »

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My guess is this will be his last season for Boston

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2018, 01:04:51 AM »

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If sully had that physique, we'd have ourselves a nice 4! Sully was really awesome in some ways ... but physique was not one of them. Held him back and cut his career.

Sully had skills, his physical limitations did him in. Guy was just too ground bound

Not really physical limitations either... he did just fine with his body before, was a plus player according to the eye test and stats...he just ate his way out of the league

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2018, 01:07:29 AM »

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He is a starter in the Euro leagues

Not even sure he starts there. He's nowhere near the player Theis is, and he only played about 20 minutes a game. https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/daniel-theis-1.html

Theis was defensive player of the year at the German league though, if I recall.

Maybe Euro players just get fewer minutes? My speculation anyway.

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2018, 01:25:19 AM »

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Didn't think he was an NBA player back then, nothing so far to contradict.

Sigh. Same :-\.

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2018, 06:10:33 AM »

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Yes. I like the look of him.

Good physical talent. Solid quickness laterally and end to end. Good strength and solid body size for an NBA PF. He has the physical talent to become a useful defender down the road. Good skill level. He can shoot the three. He can fake the shot and line drive. He can run the floor in transition. That is enough ways to score to be a valuable role player.

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2018, 06:19:19 AM »

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Yes. I like the look of him.

Good physical talent. Solid quickness laterally and end to end. Good strength and solid body size for an NBA PF. He has the physical talent to become a useful defender down the road. Good skill level. He can shoot the three. He can fake the shot and line drive. He can run the floor in transition. That is enough ways to score to be a valuable role player.
^this. Dude is more skilled than most end of bench players (ntm he has good physical talent), he's almost certainly going to be a good bench piece given that he continues to hone his craft and improve at a reasonable level.
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Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2018, 06:36:58 AM »

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He is a bust and lacks confidence in his game which will always hold him back.

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2018, 07:18:21 AM »

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Bust. By this time next year he 'll be considered dead salary (assuming we pick up his option).

Just trade him now that he still has some value (hopefully). At this point, I 'd probably accept a mid second rounder for him.

Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2018, 07:18:46 AM »

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Yes. I like the look of him.

Good physical talent. Solid quickness laterally and end to end. Good strength and solid body size for an NBA PF. He has the physical talent to become a useful defender down the road. Good skill level. He can shoot the three. He can fake the shot and line drive. He can run the floor in transition. That is enough ways to score to be a valuable role player.
Yep. People are too quick to judge
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Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2018, 07:49:12 AM »

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Yes. I like the look of him.

Good physical talent. Solid quickness laterally and end to end. Good strength and solid body size for an NBA PF. He has the physical talent to become a useful defender down the road. Good skill level. He can shoot the three. He can fake the shot and line drive. He can run the floor in transition. That is enough ways to score to be a valuable role player.

Today, Yabu is a minus defender - even for a bench player. If I had to defend a series of plays, I would (much) rather have Hassan Martin. He gives away nothing in strength or size to Yabu, but has quicker feet and better anticipation, and he's much faster off the floor.  Martin can't shoot from distance, but he knows how to put the ball in if he gets an offensive rebound or catches a pass a few feet from the basket - where Yabu struggles.

Martin is also going to make about $2.6 million less - which (if Smart signs for more than the QO) might be the difference between staying under the luxury tax line one more year and going over. Putting off the repeater tax is worth a lot - it's likely going to cost tens of millions when it hits, which could be just as Tatum needs his second contract. I'd like to keep the core together. I suppose if Smart signs for the QO it might not matter, but it would be a shame to pay the lux tax this year because we're hoping that Yabu will someday find his game.

Here is one more point of comparison - this year, Yabu is going to be paid twice as much as Daniel Theis, even though Theis is at least twice the player.
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Re: Yabusele three years later... What's the verdict?
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2018, 08:51:01 AM »

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My take is that if he was on a less-disciplined team and got the playing time, he'd be in the upper teens in scoring.

If he played for a scoring-starved team last year like the Kings, Hawks, etc., people would be considering him an upper talent.

CBS won't let him get away with his bad habits on offense or defense, but Yabu is slowly making better decisions in those situations. The problem is that he is not free to unleash his scoring ability.

I still think he is a high-level talent, although his place in Boston's future is becoming murky.