For Boston Williams & Robinson's futures will be entwined

[slightly biased bias fan]

Robert Williams fell into Ainge and the Celtics laps at pick 27, but someone else plummeted in the draft, Mitchell Robinson. While in High School, Robinson was at one point ranked 11th in the ESPN 100 list and the number 3 centre. Robinson signed with University of Western Kentucky partly due to his godfather (Shammond Williams) being an assistant coach but after Williams resigned from his position Robinson also left. Without any college experience Robinson stock fell to the second round and Celtics obviously passed on him but given his mobility, size and shot blocking ability...did Ainge miss the real steal of the draft?

Mitchell Robinson Highlights 2018.07.08 Knicks vs Jazz - 12 Pts, 11 Rebs, 2 Blks: https://youtu.be/vBTgc-cCDV0

[Ogaju]

wow u are right ........nice find. What are his measurements?

[Erik]

Similar thing happened in 2012 when the Celtics passed on Arnett Moultrie for Jared Sullinger. Their histories were forever entwined and changed the course of Celtics basketball. I remember constantly wondering what would have been had we drafted Moultrie. How many titles would we have by now? No one can say for sure.

[slightly biased bias fan]

wow u are right ........nice find. What are his measurements?

7'1 with a 7'4 wingspan and 9'3 standing reach but these measurements were taken at the USA Basketball u19 mini-camp in the summer of 2017, so he could easily be bigger today.

[kmart12]

Similar thing happened in 2012 when the Celtics passed on Arnett Moultrie for Jared Sullinger. Their histories were forever entwined and changed the course of Celtics basketball. I remember constantly wondering what would have been had we drafted Moultrie. How many titles would we have by now? No one can say for sure.

I laughed. TP.

[Roy H.]

If Williams had red flags, Robinson had black ones. He flakes out on College, then withdrew from the combine at the last minute. Teams had no track at all.

[coffee425]

the epitome of NBA summer is debating the historical ramifications of passing up on the 36th overall pick with the 27th pick.

next up: why didn't we sign Mario Hezonja to be our 14th man?

[kraidstar]

the epitome of NBA summer is debating the historical ramifications of passing up on the 36th overall pick with the 27th pick.

next up: why didn't we sign Mario Hezonja to be our 14th man?

Cuz Danny Ainge is stoopid

[JHTruth]

Celtics Nation is a hoot.

They write-off the 27th pick in the draft after a week while the 16th pick from a year ago, Yabust, is a fun cartoon character to the fans and should stay on the team for his entire career despite not contributing at all.

Quite a place..

[ederson]

Celtics Nation is a hoot.

They write-off the 27th pick in the draft after a week while the 16th pick from a year ago, Yabust, is a fun cartoon character to the fans and should stay on the team for his entire career despite not contributing at all.

Quite a place..

Nobody is writing him off... In most cases its a response to super optimistic posts that vary from exepcting him to get regular minutes to being a potential legend because he has big hands

And you are right about yabu btw

[fairweatherfan]

Celtics Nation is a hoot.

They write-off the 27th pick in the draft after a week while the 16th pick from a year ago, Yabust, is a fun cartoon character to the fans and should stay on the team for his entire career despite not contributing at all.

Quite a place..

Not contributing at all?



I suppose memes about absurdly large butts are just "nothing" to you.  I say good day, sir!

[mmmmm]

Celtics Nation is a hoot.

They write-off the 27th pick in the draft after a week while the 16th pick from a year ago, Yabust, is a fun cartoon character to the fans and should stay on the team for his entire career despite not contributing at all.

Quite a place..

Nobody is writing him off... In most cases its a response to super optimistic posts that vary from exepcting him to get regular minutes to being a potential legend because he has big hands

And you are right about yabu btw

Hmm... I wonder just what some were expecting to get out of Yabusele in his rookie season?

Here are the rookie seasons for the last 10 #16 picks:


Draft
Year   Player                Minutes  Win Shares    WS/48
2017  Justin Patton              4      0.0         ---
2016  Guershon Yabusele(2017)  235      0.6         .122
2015  Terry Rozier             311     -0.3        -.047
2014  Jusuf Nurkic            1103      1.6         .069
2013  Lucas Nogueira (2014)     23      0.0         ---
2012  Royce White (2013)         9      0.0         --- (no longer in NBA)
2011  Nikola Vucevic           812      1.8         .109
2010  Luke Babbit              137     -0.4        -.143
2009  James Johnson            757      0.8         .054
2008  Marreese Speights       1256      3.8         .146


Yabusele is pretty much right in the middle of all that.  Sure, it would have been nice if he produced like Nurkic or Speights but hey, different team.  Different opportunities.

Speights skews things significantly.  His rookie season was by far his best season until his 7th season, his second after ending up on GSW.    Most of his seasons have been pretty 'meh'.

Outside of Speights, the other 9 played an average of just 378 minutes and produced an average of just 0.46 Win Shares.   Even with Speights, the average is just 0.79 Win Shares.

I'm sure there were folks predicting a Hall Of Fame career for Speights after his rookie season and certainly there were plenty of Nostradamii on CelticsBlog asserting what a bust Terry Rozier was after his rookie season.    Probably the same guys who were equating Avery Bradley to a steaming pile of hot garbage after his rookie season.

Me?  I think I'll trust Danny and Brad's assessments and patience.   I'll give up on Yabusele when they do.   And that doesn't mean I'm expecting him to be a potential legend.

[JHTruth]

Celtics Nation is a hoot.

They write-off the 27th pick in the draft after a week while the 16th pick from a year ago, Yabust, is a fun cartoon character to the fans and should stay on the team for his entire career despite not contributing at all.

Quite a place..

Nobody is writing him off... In most cases its a response to super optimistic posts that vary from exepcting him to get regular minutes to being a potential legend because he has big hands

And you are right about yabu btw

Hmm... I wonder just what some were expecting to get out of Yabusele in his rookie season?

Here are the rookie seasons for the last 10 #16 picks:


Draft
Year   Player                Minutes  Win Shares    WS/48
2017  Justin Patton              4      0.0         ---
2016  Guershon Yabusele(2017)  235      0.6         .122
2015  Terry Rozier             311     -0.3        -.047
2014  Jusuf Nurkic            1103      1.6         .069
2013  Lucas Nogueira (2014)     23      0.0         ---
2012  Royce White (2013)         9      0.0         --- (no longer in NBA)
2011  Nikola Vucevic           812      1.8         .109
2010  Luke Babbit              137     -0.4        -.143
2009  James Johnson            757      0.8         .054
2008  Marreese Speights       1256      3.8         .146


Yabusele is pretty much right in the middle of all that.  Sure, it would have been nice if he produced like Nurkic or Speights but hey, different team.  Different opportunities.

Speights skews things significantly.  His rookie season was by far his best season until his 7th season, his second after ending up on GSW.    Most of his seasons have been pretty 'meh'.

Outside of Speights, the other 9 played an average of just 378 minutes and produced an average of just 0.46 Win Shares.   Even with Speights, the average is just 0.79 Win Shares.

I'm sure there were folks predicting a Hall Of Fame career for Speights after his rookie season and certainly there were plenty of Nostradamii on CelticsBlog asserting what a bust Terry Rozier was after his rookie season.    Probably the same guys who were equating Avery Bradley to a steaming pile of hot garbage after his rookie season.

Me?  I think I'll trust Danny and Brad's assessments and patience.   I'll give up on Yabusele when they do.   And that doesn't mean I'm expecting him to be a potential legend.

Yabu is probably alright. I was just exaggerating a but due to the discrepancy in treatment between Yabs and RW3. Just a little annoying. But again, I'm not the type to go gaga over a guy  dabbing after a 3..

[knuckleballer]

Celtics Nation is a hoot.

They write-off the 27th pick in the draft after a week while the 16th pick from a year ago, Yabust, is a fun cartoon character to the fans and should stay on the team for his entire career despite not contributing at all.

Quite a place..

Not contributing at all?



I suppose memes about absurdly large butts are just "nothing" to you.  I say good day, sir!

He should be incredible at boxing out with that booty.

Here are a couple articles about him trying to lose weight.

http://www.celticslife.com/2018/07/a-make-or-break-season-for-guerschon.html
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2018/07/bulpett_guerschon_yabusele_addresses_weight_issues_this_offseason

[Birdman]

I think Knicks hit a grand slam with Knox ans Robinson