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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2018, 10:25:10 AM »

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There's a lot wrong with his jump shot, but honestly I think the same could be said about most bigs in the NBA. Even KG didn't have a perfect shooting form. It still went in. Reggie Miller had a terrible flaw with his non shooting hand at the top of the ball instead of the side. He's one of the greatest shooters of all time. As long as the ball goes in, it doesn't really matter if it's textbook or not.

Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2018, 10:41:41 AM »

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There's a lot wrong with his jump shot, but honestly I think the same could be said about most bigs in the NBA. Even KG didn't have a perfect shooting form. It still went in. Reggie Miller had a terrible flaw with his non shooting hand at the top of the ball instead of the side. He's one of the greatest shooters of all time. As long as the ball goes in, it doesn't really matter if it's textbook or not.

This is true.

But, here we have a guy where the jump shots and FTs apparently don’t go in.


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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2018, 11:05:33 AM »

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He can't shoot and has a questionable motor. I don't see how that makes him a better prospect than Jordan or Capela. Sure there is a lot of potential there, but it will take a great deal of work for Williams and none of us know if he has the maturity to do it.

Williams was a good pick at 27 because of his upside, but I don't ever expect him to be more than a rotational piece (that is certainly good enough from a pick that late).

Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2018, 12:21:44 PM »

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-Not exactly a great shooter, but Williams can also hit mid-range shots occasionally. His mechanics doesn't look broken either. The 2 can't also score outside the painted area

Holy homerism batman!

Prove me wrong. Can both Capela and DJ hit mid-range shots? I rarely see either of them spot up some mid-range shots if there's any.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr6qln44cQ&t=1s

Skip to 5:35 and you can see him hitting long range jumpers consistently in the shootaround. He maybe raw, but he's not one-dimensional offensively.
Are we SERIOUSLY using practice to prove a guy can shoot?!?  Seriously?  That’s about as meaningless as it gets.
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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2018, 08:09:23 PM »

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You're taking my post way out of context. I said he's a better prospect, not better player. I don't know what you find wrong about my post.

Perhaps, albeit inadvertently, setting unrealistic expectations? :-\

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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2018, 08:43:56 PM »

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-Not exactly a great shooter, but Williams can also hit mid-range shots occasionally. His mechanics doesn't look broken either. The 2 can't also score outside the painted area

Holy homerism batman!

Prove me wrong. Can both Capela and DJ hit mid-range shots? I rarely see either of them spot up some mid-range shots if there's any.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr6qln44cQ&t=1s

Skip to 5:35 and you can see him hitting long range jumpers consistently in the shootaround. He maybe raw, but he's not one-dimensional offensively.
Are we SERIOUSLY using practice to prove a guy can shoot?!?  Seriously?  That’s about as meaningless as it gets.
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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2018, 08:58:06 PM »

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Plenty of guys can't shoot at age 20. But what you also look for is whether or not the basis for a decent jump shot is there, and in this case it most certainly is.

Even if he never shoots a jump sho in his whole pro career, he can still effectively space the floor by rolling to the rim as a threat to finish lobs and sucking defenders off of shooters on the perimeter. After all that's the primary offensive skill for Jordan and Capela and they are both valuable on offense.
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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2018, 09:25:03 PM »

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Ok, how about this comp......6'7" 235

College stats:19.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.4 tpg, 34.1 mpg, .487 FG, .424 3PT, .785 FT

Pro stats: 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .3 apg, .3 tpg, 15.45 mpg, .346 FG, .320 3PT, .610 FT

In the above season, he attempted 188 field goals in 1150 minutes of play.

Still holds a couple of scoring records at his college.

Ojeleye and Williams are very different players who essentially, play different positions, but, Semi absolutely filled it up in college. Mr. Williams never filled up anything.


G league might be good for Williams as all they do is shoot.  Sure, Kendrick Perkins was a great fit with the Celtics because he was on the court with three HOF shooters and All Robert Williams needs to do is impress Brad Stevens enough to get minutes before the other guys.

We can speculate, but, Robert Williams is going to have to play really hard and really want it to get minutes. Theis doesn't have anything close to William's athleticism and, without injury, would have had 8th or 9th most minutes of any Celtics player in the playoffs.


I hope he's really good. The SL lineup is going to have the most monstrous frontcourt ever.


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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2018, 09:32:18 PM »

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Ojeleye and Williams are very different players who essentially, play different positions, but, Semi absolutely filled it up in college. Mr. Williams never filled up anything.

Williams filled up the stat sheet on the defensive end. He led the SEC in rebounding and blocks.

I don’t care if the kid never scores a basket outside five feet.


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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2018, 09:34:10 PM »

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Ojeleye and Williams are very different players who essentially, play different positions, but, Semi absolutely filled it up in college. Mr. Williams never filled up anything.

Williams filled up the stat sheet on the defensive end. He led the SEC in rebounding and blocks.

I don’t care if the kid never scores a basket outside five feet.

I’d be a little annoyed if he never made a free throw...

Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2018, 09:41:22 PM »

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Ok, how about this comp......6'7" 235

College stats:19.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.4 tpg, 34.1 mpg, .487 FG, .424 3PT, .785 FT

Pro stats: 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .3 apg, .3 tpg, 15.45 mpg, .346 FG, .320 3PT, .610 FT

In the above season, he attempted 188 field goals in 1150 minutes of play.

Still holds a couple of scoring records at his college.

Ojeleye and Williams are very different players who essentially, play different positions, but, Semi absolutely filled it up in college. Mr. Williams never filled up anything.


G league might be good for Williams as all they do is shoot.  Sure, Kendrick Perkins was a great fit with the Celtics because he was on the court with three HOF shooters and All Robert Williams needs to do is impress Brad Stevens enough to get minutes before the other guys.

We can speculate, but, Robert Williams is going to have to play really hard and really want it to get minutes. Theis doesn't have anything close to William's athleticism and, without injury, would have had 8th or 9th most minutes of any Celtics player in the playoffs.


I hope he's really good. The SL lineup is going to have the most monstrous frontcourt ever.


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Don't you think it's a little unfair to compare the both, since Semi Ojelye was 22, when he got drafted, plus initially in his first two years on the Duke roster, he barely saw any minutes averaging a combined 7.2 MPG?


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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2018, 10:25:19 PM »

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So, to recap, your signature is basically just you complaining about DA not valuing rebounding.

Then DA drafts the best rebounding option possible, maybe the guy with the best rebounding upside he’s ever picked, and you’re complaining about it more than any other Celtics fan.

Then just for reference, Alkins the guy you wanted at #28 went undrafted, and your big man binkie Patton is an awful rebounder compared to a Williams.

Seems like you don’t want to update your views on Williams, so maybe it’s time to update the sig?
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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2018, 10:36:06 PM »

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So, to recap, your signature is basically just you complaining about DA not valuing rebounding.

Then DA drafts the best rebounding option possible, maybe the guy with the best rebounding upside he’s ever picked, and you’re complaining about it more than any other Celtics fan.

Then just for reference, Alkins the guy you wanted at #28 went undrafted, and your big man binkie Patton is an awful rebounder compared to a Williams.

Seems like you don’t want to update your views on Williams, so maybe it’s time to update the sig?
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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2018, 10:39:34 PM »

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So, to recap, your signature is basically just you complaining about DA not valuing rebounding.

Then DA drafts the best rebounding option possible, maybe the guy with the best rebounding upside he’s ever picked, and you’re complaining about it more than any other Celtics fan.

Then just for reference, Alkins the guy you wanted at #28 went undrafted, and your big man binkie Patton is an awful rebounder compared to a Williams.

Seems like you don’t want to update your views on Williams, so maybe it’s time to update the sig?

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Re: Williams is already a better prospect than Capela or Jordan was
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2018, 11:20:42 PM »

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So, to recap, your signature is basically just you complaining about DA not valuing rebounding.

Then DA drafts the best rebounding option possible, maybe the guy with the best rebounding upside he’s ever picked, and you’re complaining about it more than any other Celtics fan.

Then just for reference, Alkins the guy you wanted at #28 went undrafted, and your big man binkie Patton is an awful rebounder compared to a Williams.

Seems like you don’t want to update your views on Williams, so maybe it’s time to update the sig?

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