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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #300 on: June 23, 2018, 06:36:59 AM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #301 on: June 23, 2018, 07:38:41 AM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic. 

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #302 on: June 23, 2018, 07:51:50 AM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic.
Yeah, he more than makes up for not being 6'11"-7' tall with his insane hops and his 7'5" wingspan. Plus, he's a very strong 240lbs. Guess who else was 6'9", 240lbs, and was an athletic defensive minded rebounder? Big Ben ;)

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #303 on: June 23, 2018, 09:22:11 AM »

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I agree with others: wingspan matters more than height.  He’s got length and strength, which is all you need in the modern NBA. 

If he works hard, and if he has roughly average basketball IQ, he will be a useful player. Not necessarily Capela/Jordan, but a guy who can easily put up 8 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks.


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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #304 on: June 23, 2018, 09:26:06 AM »

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Himmelsbach says it was a miscommunication on both sides

Not a good sign when you’re barely 12 hours in and already need to do damage control.  His agent should have made sure he was available — unless he’s already gotten rid of his second agent since April.



This guy is GOLD ::).

Lol, you really don't like this pick.

I guess you could say that he's the ultimate...draft sleeper ;) ::) ;D *groan*.

Ughhh, TP, against my better judgment. 😉

Seriously, though, I am concerned about missing his first press appearance as a Celtic. If you have a clean record, you can get away with it. But this guy fell from the lottery to #27, primarily because he was viewed as a problem child. This was not a good start to repair that image.

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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #305 on: June 23, 2018, 09:51:54 AM »

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I agree with others: wingspan matters more than height.

This guy also has next level athletic ability.   It is safe to say that his jumping goes to 11 if you catch my Spinal Tap reference.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #306 on: June 23, 2018, 11:17:52 AM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic.

Yes. 6-10 is already quite undersized for the center position. Another inch matters. Few players 6-9 can play 30+ minutes as a starting center. Reduces the likelihood of him being a starter down the road.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #307 on: June 23, 2018, 11:32:40 AM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic.

Yes. 6-10 is already quite undersized for the center position. Another inch matters. Few players 6-9 can play 30+ minutes as a starting center. Reduces the likelihood of him being a starter down the road.

This may come as a surprise to some, but Williams is the same height and wingspan as both DeAndre Jordan and Anthony Davis.

Jordan measured at 6'10'' at the combine his draft year. The same as Williams.

I think he can play center.


Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #308 on: June 23, 2018, 11:36:03 AM »

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I agree with others: wingspan matters more than height.  He’s got length and strength, which is all you need in the modern NBA. 


You check the wingspans of all the major bigs. They're all 7-4, 7-5. Wilt was 7-8. Bamba 7-10 is unusual.

Russell was 7-4. Williams is about same size as Russell, but Russ was 20 lbs lighter as a rookie. Russell was a leaper like Williams, but in his day nobody else could jump like that. Nowadays, it's much more common--the athleticism has increased.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #309 on: June 23, 2018, 11:41:22 AM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic.

Yes. 6-10 is already quite undersized for the center position. Another inch matters. Few players 6-9 can play 30+ minutes as a starting center. Reduces the likelihood of him being a starter down the road.

He was 6’9” in the summer of 2015 (hadn’t turned 18 yet), and as far as I can tell that was his last official measurement in a camp or combine setting.  His standing reach is reportedly 9’4”, which is plenty tall enough.  He’s not undersized — just maybe built a little differently.
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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #310 on: June 23, 2018, 11:43:26 AM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic.

Yes. 6-10 is already quite undersized for the center position. Another inch matters. Few players 6-9 can play 30+ minutes as a starting center. Reduces the likelihood of him being a starter down the road.

Russell was 6-9, 220 lbs. 7-4 wingspan. Numbers similar to Williams, but a different era. Many more like that now.

Russell played centers who were 7-1, 7-2 to a standstill with his defensive skills and leaping/blocking ability. Wilt was much bigger, yet he defended him better than anybody. Held him to 30ppg when he was averaging 50ppg.

Williams could be a diamond in the rough. We'll just have to see how he develops and how he is used.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #311 on: June 23, 2018, 01:12:22 PM »

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Here's a good article on Williams.  Only played 1 year of high level AAU.  I consider that a plus. 

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“I feel like I stepped up and became the leader on defense for my team,” Williams said. “Last year, we were lost. We didn’t know who was leading. We didn’t know who was going to step up. We all waited to see who was going to be the next man up, who was going to take control. This year, we’re telling each other, ‘Hey, get on your s—.’ I feel like I’ve done a great job doing that.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/robert-williams-unlikely-return-paved-way-texas-sweet-16-run-011215394.html



Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #312 on: June 23, 2018, 01:13:19 PM »

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For those knocking the Williams pick, who would you have chosen instead? 

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #313 on: June 23, 2018, 01:23:21 PM »

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For those knocking the Williams pick, who would you have chosen instead?
Who's knocking the Williams pick?
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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #314 on: June 23, 2018, 01:25:07 PM »

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How big is Robert Williams really?

He was a 6-8 (without shoes) / 6-9 (in shoes) PF in the mold of a Tyrus Thomas a year ago. Now some are reporting he is 6-10 and a few others are still saying 6-9.

I looked up the draft measurements but his were not on there.

Is there any legit measurements on this guy? Is he a real 6-10? Or is he another average size PF pretending to be a center?
He didn't participate in the NBA combine.  So whether he's 6-9 or 6-10 is going to make a big difference to you?  I'd say he's Horford's size but with a bigger wingspan and much more athletic.
Yeah, he more than makes up for not being 6'11"-7' tall with his insane hops and his 7'5" wingspan. Plus, he's a very strong 240lbs. Guess who else was 6'9", 240lbs, and was an athletic defensive minded rebounder? Big Ben ;)
Since he hasn't been measured, this number is as reliable as his height.
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