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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2018, 11:47:50 PM »

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This was a good pick,  7'5" wingspan, can guard the perimeter, 6'10" with a 40 inch vertical !

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He lacks skills but lordy does he have potential.
Potential as what? I don’t see much potential at all on offense. On defense, yes. He might be great and could help with bounding. But that free throw shooting...  :o

I think he'll be able to hit open midrange shots on the baseline with some consistency, I've seen him hit a number of them in games I watched last year.   He was better as a freshman.

He dominated Kentucky last year vs. Fox and Monk, tho his team lost, he had a 22+ 12+ double double.  He's an elite NBA athlete and a good shot blocker, with a 7'6" wingspan and a 40" vertical.  He has the tools to be 70-80% of DJ or Capella.  That's great value at #27.

Now let's buy a late 2nd and draft Shake Milton, Trevon Duval or Rawle Alkins.
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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2018, 11:48:59 PM »

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I don't want to put any pressure on the kid, but I think that defensively he should be the next Bill Russell.

I didn't want to say that, but I saw Russell play his rookie year in Boston. This kid can jump like Russell, but he has a better mid range shot. Russ was also left handed.

We'll see if he can develop the kind of defensive skills Russell had. The young Russell had a similar long body and could also jump through the roof. The kid has the tools, and needs the right teachers. Just keep him away from the 3P line.  :laugh:

They’re about the same height and probably similar wing span. We can only hope.
If we just drafted the best defensive player of all time I'd be pretty happy. Can't shoot though ;)
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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2018, 11:49:22 PM »

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I love the enthusiasm around here but Williams has a better chance to become the next fab melo (RIP) than he does any number of the pie in the sky comps.  At #27 you expect to get a significantly flawed prospect and that's what he is.  No offense to speak of and a questionable motor.  Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2018, 11:50:18 PM »

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I’m surprised because he’s a non passing non stretch big, but I love the pick.

Actually reports say he’s a good passer. Just see a lot of alley oop and shot block video so hard to tell.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2018, 11:50:53 PM »

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This was a good pick,  7'5" wingspan, can guard the perimeter, 6'10" with a 40 inch vertical !

https://www.facebook.com/bleacherreport/videos/10154878620491006/

He lacks skills but lordy does he have potential.



Stevens said he's very high on him.

I still wanted Spellman, but I'm gonna trust Steven's judgement.

I don't like the fact he had immaturity issues and terrible shooting mechanics, but we gotta give him a chance.

I was hoping for Spellman too... higher IQ

but Williams is a more explosive athlete.  Just raw and wasn't taught the fundamentals properly (lets hope)

High risk, high reward type pick.  Lets just hope he doesn't turn out to be another Fab Melo, who was lost from the day his name was called on draft night

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2018, 11:50:54 PM »

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Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

I'm not sure that there's such a thing as a bust at #27.


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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2018, 11:51:12 PM »

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I love the enthusiasm around here but Williams has a better chance to become the next fab melo (RIP) than he does any number of the pie in the sky comps.  At #27 you expect to get a significantly flawed prospect and that's what he is.  No offense to speak of and a questionable motor.  Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

Thanks for the optimism.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2018, 11:51:49 PM »

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Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

I'm not sure that there's such a thing as a bust at #27.
Exactly. It's a pick at the end of the first
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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2018, 11:53:18 PM »

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I love the enthusiasm around here but Williams has a better chance to become the next fab melo (RIP) than he does any number of the pie in the sky comps.  At #27 you expect to get a significantly flawed prospect and that's what he is.  No offense to speak of and a questionable motor.  Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

You are in the minority on the pick. It's being called one the steals of the draft by just about everyone. Eastern rival fans aren't happy about this pick either. For what he'll be asked to do this is a [dang] good pick. It will be really hard for anyone to mess this up.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2018, 11:54:03 PM »

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I love the enthusiasm around here but Williams has a better chance to become the next fab melo (RIP) than he does any number of the pie in the sky comps.  At #27 you expect to get a significantly flawed prospect and that's what he is.  No offense to speak of and a questionable motor.  Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

Yeah, no.

Williams is a lottery talent in a strong big man draft, with some red flags going to an ideal situation. He could have easily gone late lottery, and he's closer to never even cracking a rotation than being Clint Capela?

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2018, 11:54:30 PM »

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Williams have better potential than Capela and DJ though. Unlike the 2, Robert is pretty solid passer from what I've seen and also have some mid-range game which the 2 also lacks.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2018, 11:54:34 PM »

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Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

I'm not sure that there's such a thing as a bust at #27.

I agree in principle, but I think people’s expectations of Williams are way too high and are ripe for disappointment in a season or two.

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2018, 11:55:06 PM »

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I love the enthusiasm around here but Williams has a better chance to become the next fab melo (RIP) than he does any number of the pie in the sky comps.  At #27 you expect to get a significantly flawed prospect and that's what he is.  No offense to speak of and a questionable motor.  Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

You are in the minority on the pick. It's being called one the steals of the draft by just about everyone. Eastern rival fans aren't happy about this pick either. For what he'll be asked to do this is a [dang] good pick. It will be really hard for anyone to mess this up.
exactly. He's a matchup shot blocker. He will be behind horford, theis and  Baynes if he's still around

Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2018, 11:56:30 PM »

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Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

I'm not sure that there's such a thing as a bust at #27.

I fought about this with Saltlover, who is almost never wrong.  I took your stance... and if I'm honest... he didn't change my mind.  The debate at hand was whether RJ Hunter was a bust.  I argued that picked in the mid-20's, especially at that time in DA's drafting career, RJ Hunter's projection was 'useless', whether for 1 year, 2 years or 3 years of service.
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PF: Larry Nance Sr 91-92 / Blake Griffin 13-14
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Re: Ainge got his big at pick 27. Welcome Robert Williams
« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2018, 11:57:09 PM »

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Potential bust-o-meter is through the roof.

I'm not sure that there's such a thing as a bust at #27.

I agree in principle, but I think people’s expectations of Williams are way too high and are ripe for disappointment in a season or two.

All the C's need out of him is what Zizic was supposed to do.