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Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2018, 11:30:27 AM »

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Sources: Celtics expressing interest in trading up to top 4 of NBA Draft to pursue Luka Doncic, Mo Bamba or Jaren Jackson Jr. with Terry Rozier being potentially available.

https://t.co/StEgJU0o91?amp=1

That would be awesome, but I just can't envision how we can pull that off. He isn't giving up one of our big 5 players, and Rozier plus Sac pick isn't getting us there, IMO.

Does Memphis + Sac + Rozier get us top 4 or 5? I can't imagine it will. Cheers to Ainge if he does.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2018, 11:30:37 AM »

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Sources: Celtics expressing interest in trading up to top 4 of NBA Draft to pursue Luka Doncic, Mo Bamba or Jaren Jackson Jr. with Terry Rozier being potentially available.

https://t.co/StEgJU0o91?amp=1

Hahahaha! That means that Smart is headed out in a trade to Dallas for #5. Mark it.
(it's all about misdirection when it comes to Danny Ainge)


We can’t trade Smart until July when free agency opens

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2018, 11:52:15 AM »

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Sources: Celtics expressing interest in trading up to top 4 of NBA Draft to pursue Luka Doncic, Mo Bamba or Jaren Jackson Jr. with Terry Rozier being potentially available.

https://t.co/StEgJU0o91?amp=1

Hahahaha! That means that Smart is headed out in a trade to Dallas for #5. Mark it.
(it's all about misdirection when it comes to Danny Ainge)


We can’t trade Smart until July when free agency opens

CAn't they do that with a "player/s to be announced later". I swear I've seen that before, not sure if new rules cancel this with a sing and trade.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2018, 11:55:48 AM »

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Sources: Celtics expressing interest in trading up to top 4 of NBA Draft to pursue Luka Doncic, Mo Bamba or Jaren Jackson Jr. with Terry Rozier being potentially available.

https://t.co/StEgJU0o91?amp=1

Hahahaha! That means that Smart is headed out in a trade to Dallas for #5. Mark it.
(it's all about misdirection when it comes to Danny Ainge)


We can’t trade Smart until July when free agency opens

CAn't they do that with a "player/s to be announced later". I swear I've seen that before, not sure if new rules cancel this with a sing and trade.
No, but we can agree to the trade, they can draft the player we want, then do the trade in July.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2018, 12:05:50 PM »

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Sources: Celtics expressing interest in trading up to top 4 of NBA Draft to pursue Luka Doncic, Mo Bamba or Jaren Jackson Jr. with Terry Rozier being potentially available.

https://t.co/StEgJU0o91?amp=1

http://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/1009811858340052993

What’s hilarious is that Rozier will be a guest analyst for the B/R draft show tonight. How awkward will that be if he gets traded in the middle of doing that show? 😂

On a more serious note, I wonder if a three way trade with Memphis and either Orlando, Dallas, or Chicago could work. Hard to see this working with Parsons’ contract. I think we have a better chance of simply trading with Orlando, Dallas, or Chicago ourselves to have a chance at one of the bigs.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2018, 12:13:45 PM »

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Sources: Celtics expressing interest in trading up to top 4 of NBA Draft to pursue Luka Doncic, Mo Bamba or Jaren Jackson Jr. with Terry Rozier being potentially available.

https://t.co/StEgJU0o91?amp=1

http://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/1009811858340052993

What’s hilarious is that Rozier will be a guest analyst for the B/R draft show tonight. How awkward will that be if he gets traded in the middle of doing that show? 😂

Wasserman: "Let's learn a little more about our guest, Terry Rozier. Terry, what are your interests? For example, how do you feel about Graceland, cowboy hats or Disney World?"

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Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2018, 12:16:17 PM »

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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/06/21/celtics-plan-nba-draft-2018

Globe reports that rumors of a Celtics move up in the draft are cooling.


Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2018, 12:17:05 PM »

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I really do not get why people think its appealing for other teams to give up their current high lottery pick to get back their own future uncertain lottery pick.

Its just not.

You may be right,  but it is a tradable asset that the Celtics have. The Celtics obviously have assets that most teams would desire, such as Brown and Tatum. However, I don't see Danny even bringing those players to the table for a #4 pick. That would leave Rozier and the future picks. So it is not a question of, do teams want their own future picks back in a trade. It's just the matter of the tradable assets the Celtics have to offer.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2018, 12:18:12 PM »

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Sources: Celtics expressing interest in trading up to top 4 of NBA Draft to pursue Luka Doncic, Mo Bamba or Jaren Jackson Jr. with Terry Rozier being potentially available.

https://t.co/StEgJU0o91?amp=1

http://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/1009811858340052993

What’s hilarious is that Rozier will be a guest analyst for the B/R draft show tonight. How awkward will that be if he gets traded in the middle of doing that show? 😂

On a more serious note, I wonder if a three way trade with Memphis and either Orlando, Dallas, or Chicago could work. Hard to see this working with Parsons’ contract. I think we have a better chance of simply trading with Orlando, Dallas, or Chicago ourselves to have a chance at one of the bigs.

I could see Memphis/Orlando in a 3 way trade.

If they believe Rozier can break out, and would like the SAC pick along with either Clippers or Boston 1st, I could see that happening.
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Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2018, 12:26:40 PM »

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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/06/21/celtics-plan-nba-draft-2018

Globe reports that rumors of a Celtics move up in the draft are cooling.

I am fine with staying put but do not want another pointless player that can’t shoot like semi.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2018, 12:31:36 PM »

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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/06/21/celtics-plan-nba-draft-2018

Globe reports that rumors of a Celtics move up in the draft are cooling.

I am fine with staying put but do not want another pointless player that can’t shoot like semi.

There is nothing pointless about adding depth or drafting the replacement for Smart or Rozier whichever leave.  The Celtics really need a 3 & D player for the 2nd until who can guard 2-4.  I'd rather them swing for the fences and draft someone who was very highly rated going into the year but was hurt.  That's untapped potential the C's can develop.  That's the type of guy they should be drafting.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2018, 12:36:24 PM »

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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/06/21/celtics-plan-nba-draft-2018

Globe reports that rumors of a Celtics move up in the draft are cooling.

I am fine with staying put but do not want another pointless player that can’t shoot like semi.

There is nothing pointless about adding depth or drafting the replacement for Smart or Rozier whichever leave.  The Celtics really need a 3 & D player for the 2nd until who can guard 2-4.  I'd rather them swing for the fences and draft someone who was very highly rated going into the year but was hurt.  That's untapped potential the C's can develop.  That's the type of guy they should be drafting.

Smart is going to be resigned. You need scoring off the bench to balance that unit out. Worried about losing Rozier then draft a legit point. Don’t waste it on a josh Okogie who has zero handles and is a spotty shooter.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2018, 12:38:41 PM »

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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2018/06/21/celtics-plan-nba-draft-2018

Globe reports that rumors of a Celtics move up in the draft are cooling.

Which means that we are actually going to move up in the draft....we all know how Danny works.

Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2018, 12:41:29 PM »

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My stab at a Cs for #4 trade

Suns get Rozier, Parsons, 2019 Grizz 1st

Grizz get TJ Warren, #16 (from suns), 2019 Sac 1st, #27 (from Cs), Marcus Morris

Cs get #4

Why

Suns land Rozier to start along side Booker, Jackson, Bender and Ayton and a potential loto pick next year. If they plan on developing youth and not diving into FA market then Parsons deal isnt going to make a huge difference.

Grizz, They bring in two players in Morris and Warren who will help them win next season. The 19 Sac pick should be upper lottery. Adding the 16 and 27 to go along with the 32 they already have should be able to move them back up to the 10-12 range if they have a late lottery player they want. (Maybe Lonnie Walker?)

Celtics, At #4 they can get the big man of the future in Jackson, Bamba or Carter. This also eliminates the need to resign Baynes and that coupled with moving Morris opens up space under the luxury tax to retain Smart.
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Re: Memphis shopping 4th pick (Celtics interested)
« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2018, 12:42:24 PM »

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You know Memphis would love to have their own pick back.

That thing is hamstringing their future flexibility - not only can they not tank if they decide they need to, but it affects/limits other future picks they could send out due to the Stepien rule.

To us it is a nice pick with upside - with them it a chance to control their own destiny again. Note that we sent back one of Minnesota's picks as part of the KG trade. Good stuff.

Would they? I think they're fine not having it as they intend to compete. If they were going full rebuild sure, but that's not what this looks like. They want to move Parsons in order to get 'compete now' players, all while remaining at the top of the draft

They would like to have it back.  Every team likes to control their own picks, if for no other reason than getting it back means it’s easier for them to trade future picks if needed.  And if they are unable to right the ship, giving up a future lottery pick, potentially unprotected in 2021, would be terrible optics.

The pick is more valuable to Memphis than it is any other team.  It’s valuable in general, but it probably has 5-10% more value to them.

Thanks to saltlover.

This "draft day concept" might actually have legs except...don't the Grizz want one of these top 5 kids?

Like any team Grizz hoping for an overpay from a team who is "in love" with whoever.
Ainge never does this...almost, but, he has the leverage to overpay if he needs to without hurting the team.

If Ainge makes a move into the lottery? I'll be shocked simply because he doesn't need to and this...

Brown....max
Tatum....max
#5 pick this year...max

Ok they're spaced but, makes you wonder if it is financial planning of the best kind.

I know I'm oversimplifying as there will be trades and the like, but, this move would mean Ainge is thinking "three years to title" or the like.

I say he plays hard tonight, but can't rob anyone so, sits it out.