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Do you think Kahwi Leonard comes to Boston?

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Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1050 on: July 12, 2018, 03:12:21 PM »

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Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1051 on: July 12, 2018, 03:19:35 PM »

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Vegas now favors Raptors as his landing spot.
Sure is:

https://fastbreakdaily.com/2018/07/12/leonard-toronto/

Wow I was starting to think Philly could get him, but they have the same odds as us. Are they really going to roll the dice on getting him or butler next offseason with a million teams having cap space?

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1052 on: July 12, 2018, 03:34:03 PM »

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Vegas now favors Raptors as his landing spot.
Sure is:

https://fastbreakdaily.com/2018/07/12/leonard-toronto/

Wow I was starting to think Philly could get him, but they have the same odds as us. Are they really going to roll the dice on getting him or butler next offseason with a million teams having cap space?
Sometimes teams are better off not trading the farm for a player.  Sometimes they should.  I really don't know what Philly should do.  Adding Leonard makes them a true contender, and maybe even the favorite in the East, but if he leaves them then they have killed their real title chances at any point past next season.  So they are in a tough spot.  The Lakers though should absolutely pony up to get him otherwise they waste one of the few seasons of Lebron's prime that he has left.
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Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1053 on: July 12, 2018, 03:39:00 PM »

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Vegas now favors Raptors as his landing spot.
Sure is:

https://fastbreakdaily.com/2018/07/12/leonard-toronto/

Wow I was starting to think Philly could get him, but they have the same odds as us. Are they really going to roll the dice on getting him or butler next offseason with a million teams having cap space?
Sometimes teams are better off not trading the farm for a player.  Sometimes they should.  I really don't know what Philly should do.  Adding Leonard makes them a true contender, and maybe even the favorite in the East, but if he leaves them then they have killed their real title chances at any point past next season.  So they are in a tough spot.  The Lakers though should absolutely pony up to get him otherwise they waste one of the few seasons of Lebron's prime that he has left.

If the price is Covington and Saric and draft picks does that really ruin their future title chances? Can't they still sign the same guys next summer if they lose Leonard? They would still have the same space?

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1054 on: July 12, 2018, 03:43:17 PM »

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every year passes Lewhiners drawing power diminishes.

Go ahead Kawhi ...sit out a year ,  lose millions ......is LA really worth that to join he cry baby

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1055 on: July 12, 2018, 03:47:30 PM »

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Vegas now favors Raptors as his landing spot.
Sure is:

https://fastbreakdaily.com/2018/07/12/leonard-toronto/

Wow I was starting to think Philly could get him, but they have the same odds as us. Are they really going to roll the dice on getting him or butler next offseason with a million teams having cap space?
Sometimes teams are better off not trading the farm for a player.  Sometimes they should.  I really don't know what Philly should do.  Adding Leonard makes them a true contender, and maybe even the favorite in the East, but if he leaves them then they have killed their real title chances at any point past next season.  So they are in a tough spot.  The Lakers though should absolutely pony up to get him otherwise they waste one of the few seasons of Lebron's prime that he has left.

If the price is Covington and Saric and draft picks does that really ruin their future title chances? Can't they still sign the same guys next summer if they lose Leonard? They would still have the same space?
No, they're not FA's next offseason. Though they'd have the space to sign a max player.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1056 on: July 12, 2018, 03:49:34 PM »

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If you were to have asked me a year ago today, who I thought was the one player in the league that just wanted to play basketball and could care less about any drama, I wouldn't have hesitated to say Kawhi. Fast forward to today, and he seems radioactive and completely untrustworthy. I can't remember the last top five player in any sport, devaluating themselves so quickly.

I think he knows/believes that he will receive a max contract next off season. It seems to me, that he is focused on doing anything he can to lower his trade value and decreasing the return for the Spurs. He must really have it out to hurt this Spurs team.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1057 on: July 12, 2018, 04:13:56 PM »

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If you were to have asked me a year ago today, who I thought was the one player in the league that just wanted to play basketball and could care less about any drama, I wouldn't have hesitated to say Kawhi. Fast forward to today, and he seems radioactive and completely untrustworthy. I can't remember the last top five player in any sport, devaluating themselves so quickly.

I think he knows/believes that he will receive a max contract next off season. It seems to me, that he is focused on doing anything he can to lower his trade value and decreasing the return for the Spurs. He must really have it out to hurt this Spurs team.

It’s just a terrible strategy, too. Why not sign the supermax, then demand the trade next off-season.


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Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1058 on: July 12, 2018, 04:17:25 PM »

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If you were to have asked me a year ago today, who I thought was the one player in the league that just wanted to play basketball and could care less about any drama, I wouldn't have hesitated to say Kawhi. Fast forward to today, and he seems radioactive and completely untrustworthy. I can't remember the last top five player in any sport, devaluating themselves so quickly.

I think he knows/believes that he will receive a max contract next off season. It seems to me, that he is focused on doing anything he can to lower his trade value and decreasing the return for the Spurs. He must really have it out to hurt this Spurs team.

It’s just a terrible strategy, too. Why not sign the supermax, then demand the trade next off-season.
Yeah, it should be interesting to see just how many tens of millions of dollars Kawhi cost himself by handling things the way he did.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1059 on: July 12, 2018, 04:17:47 PM »

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If you were to have asked me a year ago today, who I thought was the one player in the league that just wanted to play basketball and could care less about any drama, I wouldn't have hesitated to say Kawhi. Fast forward to today, and he seems radioactive and completely untrustworthy. I can't remember the last top five player in any sport, devaluating themselves so quickly.

I think he knows/believes that he will receive a max contract next off season. It seems to me, that he is focused on doing anything he can to lower his trade value and decreasing the return for the Spurs. He must really have it out to hurt this Spurs team.

It’s just a terrible strategy, too. Why not sign the supermax, then demand the trade next off-season.

I am wondering what his health status is myself

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1060 on: July 12, 2018, 04:26:28 PM »

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If you were to have asked me a year ago today, who I thought was the one player in the league that just wanted to play basketball and could care less about any drama, I wouldn't have hesitated to say Kawhi. Fast forward to today, and he seems radioactive and completely untrustworthy. I can't remember the last top five player in any sport, devaluating themselves so quickly.

I think he knows/believes that he will receive a max contract next off season. It seems to me, that he is focused on doing anything he can to lower his trade value and decreasing the return for the Spurs. He must really have it out to hurt this Spurs team.

It’s just a terrible strategy, too. Why not sign the supermax, then demand the trade next off-season.

I guess the only thing with a super max deal it makes it tougher to match salaries in a trade unless if you are trading with a team that has cap space.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1061 on: July 12, 2018, 05:50:55 PM »

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If you were to have asked me a year ago today, who I thought was the one player in the league that just wanted to play basketball and could care less about any drama, I wouldn't have hesitated to say Kawhi. Fast forward to today, and he seems radioactive and completely untrustworthy. I can't remember the last top five player in any sport, devaluating themselves so quickly.

I think he knows/believes that he will receive a max contract next off season. It seems to me, that he is focused on doing anything he can to lower his trade value and decreasing the return for the Spurs. He must really have it out to hurt this Spurs team.

It’s just a terrible strategy, too. Why not sign the supermax, then demand the trade next off-season.
There is no indication the Spurs ever offered him supermax.  If they did, there'd have to be significant injury protection.  Assuming he qualifies, they can always offer him supermax next offseason. 

Kawhi to Siberia
« Reply #1062 on: July 18, 2018, 04:41:45 PM »

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Imagine the Spurs sending him to a cold out of the country Eastern team and that has higher taxes.Gotta love the destination as far from California as you can get.New coach and a dismembered team.He can't sit out or he loses free agent status.
DeRozan made sure he doesn't trust management.
For a quiet guy, he is in the center of a toxic situation and risks the hatred of Raptors fans and the constant media attention-not the good kind.
Pops has got to be in hysterics.
The higher Canadian tax situation is the cherry on top.

Re: Kawhi to Siberia
« Reply #1063 on: July 18, 2018, 04:49:18 PM »

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Boston is farther away from San Antonio than Toronto, and just as cold.  In basketball terms, the only thing that mattered was that the trading team was in the EC.

Re: Kawhi to Siberia
« Reply #1064 on: July 18, 2018, 04:55:40 PM »

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Spurs got a great return for a guy on an expiring contract who sat out more than a year and made it clear he not only wants out, but want to go to LA.

Derozan, Poeltl, and a protected 1st is an awesome return.