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Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« on: June 13, 2018, 11:38:29 AM »

Offline vjcsmoke

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According to the latest CBS mock, they have Bamba going at #9 to the Knicks:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

Rise of Zhaire Smith leads to Bamba slipping in rankings:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2018-big-board-mock-prospects-rankings-projections-mo-bamba-zhaire-smith/1mfvyadnfa5wa1muta9jfehh6j

If this happens, Bamba becomes totally gettable as both the Orlando Magic and the Chicago Bulls are looking for point guards.

What if we offered Rozier, the Clippers 1st round pick, and the #27, would that be enough to move up to 6 or 7?

If you were in Danny Ainge's shoes, would you move up for Bamba if he slipped?

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 11:42:53 AM »

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IMHO you barely move into the top 10 with this offer

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 11:43:13 AM »

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The thing is, if bamba drops to 9, the 9th pick becomes much harder to get.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 11:43:45 AM »

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According to the latest CBS mock, they have Bamba going at #9 to the Knicks:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

Rise of Zhaire Smith leads to Bamba slipping in rankings:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2018-big-board-mock-prospects-rankings-projections-mo-bamba-zhaire-smith/1mfvyadnfa5wa1muta9jfehh6j

If this happens, Bamba becomes totally gettable as both the Orlando Magic and the Chicago Bulls are looking for point guards.

What if we offered Rozier, the Clippers 1st round pick, and the #27, would that be enough to move up to 6 or 7?

If you were in Danny Ainge's shoes, would you move up for Bamba if he slipped?

Not close. Sorry, not even remotely close enough to interest them. They wouldn't just hang up the phone, they'd tear it off the wall and burn down the room.

Rozier is good but, at best, a mid-tier point guard as a starter. The Clipper pick is protected for the lottery.

The minimum we would have to offer would be Rozier, Sac pick and probably Memphis.

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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 11:45:03 AM »

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Teams would be crazy to pass on someone with such tantalising physical attributes.

I also saw Doncic falling to Memphis at #4 in a recent mock. That would be stupid for those 3 teams, AND it would suck for us

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 12:00:45 PM »

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I do like the idea of drafting Melton at 27, though.

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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 12:00:50 PM »

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The thing is, if bamba drops to 9, the 9th pick becomes much harder to get.

If Bamba falls to 9, the pick will be easier to get than if he's in the top 5.
This is all about money laundering.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 12:09:22 PM »

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Zhaire Smith is a for-real prospect. He has a good feel for the game and Westbrook-esque athleticism. I'm not surprised at all that he is rising. I would not be surprised if he is the first guard taken (after Doncic). I'd take him before Sexton, SGA, or Young.

The problem is that he is probably not a primary ball-handler at the next level. In the modern NBA, if he doesn't have that skill, that makes him a high-upside 3-D prospect.

My comparison has been an Oladipo-lite or a Lee-strong. If he can develop his handles and shot creation, he has a chance to be an All-star. Otherwise, he will be a very high level two-way rotation player.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 12:14:14 PM »

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Never mind, dupe.

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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2018, 12:27:37 PM »

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According to the latest CBS mock, they have Bamba going at #9 to the Knicks:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

Rise of Zhaire Smith leads to Bamba slipping in rankings:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2018-big-board-mock-prospects-rankings-projections-mo-bamba-zhaire-smith/1mfvyadnfa5wa1muta9jfehh6j

If this happens, Bamba becomes totally gettable as both the Orlando Magic and the Chicago Bulls are looking for point guards.

What if we offered Rozier, the Clippers 1st round pick, and the #27, would that be enough to move up to 6 or 7?

If you were in Danny Ainge's shoes, would you move up for Bamba if he slipped?

Not close. Sorry, not even remotely close enough to interest them. They wouldn't just hang up the phone, they'd tear it off the wall and burn down the room.

Rozier is good but, at best, a mid-tier point guard as a starter. The Clipper pick is protected for the lottery.

The minimum we would have to offer would be Rozier, Sac pick and probably Memphis.

Mike

I disagree.  Rozier is absolutely worth the 13th pick as a PG ranked in the 13-15 range.  You are not guaranteed that the 13th pick in a draft will be any more then a rotation player let alone a starter and top 15 PG.  IMO he's worth more.  Will the C's get true value, No but I would not trade him to trade him. 

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2018, 12:44:10 PM »

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According to the latest CBS mock, they have Bamba going at #9 to the Knicks:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

Rise of Zhaire Smith leads to Bamba slipping in rankings:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2018-big-board-mock-prospects-rankings-projections-mo-bamba-zhaire-smith/1mfvyadnfa5wa1muta9jfehh6j

If this happens, Bamba becomes totally gettable as both the Orlando Magic and the Chicago Bulls are looking for point guards.

What if we offered Rozier, the Clippers 1st round pick, and the #27, would that be enough to move up to 6 or 7?

If you were in Danny Ainge's shoes, would you move up for Bamba if he slipped?

Clippers pick is almost worthless - lottery protected next two years (and I think they're a lottery team), and becomes a 2022 second rounder if it doesn't convey by 2020.

To move to #6 or #7, it's going to take #27, the Sacramento and Clippers picks plus Rozier and that might not even get it done. Might need to include the Memphis pick too.

And for what it's worth (not much), I would not trade up.


Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2018, 01:04:37 PM »

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According to the latest CBS mock, they have Bamba going at #9 to the Knicks:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

Rise of Zhaire Smith leads to Bamba slipping in rankings:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2018-big-board-mock-prospects-rankings-projections-mo-bamba-zhaire-smith/1mfvyadnfa5wa1muta9jfehh6j

If this happens, Bamba becomes totally gettable as both the Orlando Magic and the Chicago Bulls are looking for point guards.

What if we offered Rozier, the Clippers 1st round pick, and the #27, would that be enough to move up to 6 or 7?

If you were in Danny Ainge's shoes, would you move up for Bamba if he slipped?

Clippers pick is almost worthless - lottery protected next two years (and I think they're a lottery team), and becomes a 2022 second rounder if it doesn't convey by 2020.

To move to #6 or #7, it's going to take #27, the Sacramento and Clippers picks plus Rozier and that might not even get it done. Might need to include the Memphis pick too.

And for what it's worth (not much), I would not trade up.
Man Ainge isn't stupid

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2018, 01:13:22 PM »

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According to the latest CBS mock, they have Bamba going at #9 to the Knicks:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

Rise of Zhaire Smith leads to Bamba slipping in rankings:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2018-big-board-mock-prospects-rankings-projections-mo-bamba-zhaire-smith/1mfvyadnfa5wa1muta9jfehh6j

If this happens, Bamba becomes totally gettable as both the Orlando Magic and the Chicago Bulls are looking for point guards.

What if we offered Rozier, the Clippers 1st round pick, and the #27, would that be enough to move up to 6 or 7?

If you were in Danny Ainge's shoes, would you move up for Bamba if he slipped?

Not close. Sorry, not even remotely close enough to interest them. They wouldn't just hang up the phone, they'd tear it off the wall and burn down the room.

Rozier is good but, at best, a mid-tier point guard as a starter. The Clipper pick is protected for the lottery.

The minimum we would have to offer would be Rozier, Sac pick and probably Memphis.

Mike

I disagree.  Rozier is absolutely worth the 13th pick as a PG ranked in the 13-15 range.  You are not guaranteed that the 13th pick in a draft will be any more then a rotation player let alone a starter and top 15 PG.  IMO he's worth more.  Will the C's get true value, No but I would not trade him to trade him.

So let's assume that Rozier is worth the 13th pick. The Celtics are trading 13, 27 and, at best, a lottery-protected first for #6 or 7? No way the Magic or Bulls do it.

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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2018, 01:17:26 PM »

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The problem with valuing our Sac pick in a trade is the 1 protection. If it falls 1, or outside top 10, may have to add another pick.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2018, 01:29:56 PM »

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The problem with valuing our Sac pick in a trade is the 1 protection. If it falls 1, or outside top 10, may have to add another pick.

It it falls to one you get the Sixers pick, yes?