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Would you make the trade

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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2018, 10:41:56 AM »

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One thing that thinking about trading Rozier has done is modify my stance about Smart.  To be clear, it would be a major blow if we lost him.  That said, there are some interesting PG free agents who should be available for the big mid-level, especially on a short deal.  If Smart walks, we will have access to this, since we’d no longer worry about the tax or hard cap.

So if Rozier were traded and Smart walked, we wouldn’t necessarily be stuck with Larkin-type gambles for our primary backup.  A couple of these options might even fight over Boston.  If Ainge can use Rozier as a primary component of a trade that gets us into the top 10, he should do it.
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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2018, 10:50:41 AM »

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No.

Not really sold that the "shiny new toy" they get at #13 in this draft would end up being better than Rozier or what Rozier will add to this team next season.


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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2018, 10:56:49 AM »

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Considering Rozier is a former #16 pick and after the kind of playoffs he had... I'd be upset if we simply dealt him for #13.

If we trade Rozier in a package to move up, I'd prefer it's in the 1-10 range to be honest.
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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2018, 11:03:22 AM »

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Considering Rozier is a former #16 pick and after the kind of playoffs he had... I'd be upset if we simply dealt him for #13.

If we trade Rozier in a package to move up, I'd prefer it's in the 1-10 range to be honest.
That just seems to be the market these days. Like with Teague, who had put together a much longer and consistent (and better) body of work than Rozier. He didn't get Atlanta a very strong pick

Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2018, 11:09:37 AM »

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I’m pro-trade Rozier for any lotto pick but one big consequence of Trading Rozier before free agency starts is that it gives Marcus Smarts agent more leverage in negotiations which might drive up his price tremendously.

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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2018, 11:24:27 AM »

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With Kyrie knee, Marcus FA status, we can’t give up Rozier unless it returns a great prospect. Don’t feel Carter qualifies.

I think Carter is a very good prospect.  Don’t think he’s a surefire All-Star, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if when we look back on this draft he had the best career out of all the bigs taken in the top 10.  I also think he’s better than any center in the draft next year, which looks terribly weak on centers.

If we want a long-term prospect to offer Al insurance, Carter would be a good bet.  (Not outright replacing Al, but being able to step in after a season and competently fill in for Al as Terry did for Kyrie this year).

Exactly. This is what I’ve been saying. He can defend and block shots, pass and make plays, rebound, and score inside and from 3 with solid shooting. I like to compliment and eventually replace Al.
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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2018, 11:24:55 AM »

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That's good value IMO, but I'm torn.  We're contenders next year.  I'm very iffy on a move that makes us worse in a season in which we can potentially win it all.  Any draft pick is very, very unlikely to be as good as Rozier next season.

I'd lean towards no - keep Rozier and go for it.  If the right player dropped in the draft then I'd reconsider, but as of right now, no.
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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2018, 11:29:57 AM »

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I would do it

Then pick Divicenzo.   If Smart doesn't resign/Celtics won't match....then sign Larkin for cheap and give him more mins.   


Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2018, 11:31:04 AM »

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Considering Rozier is a former #16 pick and after the kind of playoffs he had... I'd be upset if we simply dealt him for #13.

If we trade Rozier in a package to move up, I'd prefer it's in the 1-10 range to be honest.
That just seems to be the market these days. Like with Teague, who had put together a much longer and consistent (and better) body of work than Rozier. He didn't get Atlanta a very strong pick

He got Atlanta the #12 pick heading into unrestricted free agency.  Teague is actually a pretty solid comp for Rozier after three years — if you were getting Jeff Teague for years 4-8 of his career, what would pay?
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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2018, 11:42:00 AM »

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Considering Rozier is a former #16 pick and after the kind of playoffs he had... I'd be upset if we simply dealt him for #13.

If we trade Rozier in a package to move up, I'd prefer it's in the 1-10 range to be honest.
That just seems to be the market these days. Like with Teague, who had put together a much longer and consistent (and better) body of work than Rozier. He didn't get Atlanta a very strong pick

He got Atlanta the #12 pick heading into unrestricted free agency.  Teague is actually a pretty solid comp for Rozier after three years — if you were getting Jeff Teague for years 4-8 of his career, what would pay?
Ah yeah, forgot he was an UFA. Considering Rozier has a year left and is an RFA after that, I would value him higher than #13 alone. Problem is teams always seem to get enamoured with picks around May & June. I also don’t know what other asset/s I would want in addition to the pick. LAC aren’t exactly brimming with promising players or contributing cheap vets.

Hopefully Rozier doesn’t demand Teague level money

I would do it

Then pick Divicenzo.   If Smart doesn't resign/Celtics won't match....then sign Larkin for cheap and give him more mins.   


DiVincenzo at 13?? Cmon man, there will be way better prospects available there. Sexton, Williams, Shai GA, Miles Bridges and Troy Brown may all likely be available at that spot, and they’re much better picks than DiV

Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2018, 12:04:36 PM »

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Of course I would trade Rozier for the #13 pick. But nobody is going to offer that, so it's a moot point. Terry ain't got that kind of trade value.

Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2018, 12:07:22 PM »

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Considering Rozier is a former #16 pick and after the kind of playoffs he had... I'd be upset if we simply dealt him for #13.

If we trade Rozier in a package to move up, I'd prefer it's in the 1-10 range to be honest.
That just seems to be the market these days. Like with Teague, who had put together a much longer and consistent (and better) body of work than Rozier. He didn't get Atlanta a very strong pick

He got Atlanta the #12 pick heading into unrestricted free agency.  Teague is actually a pretty solid comp for Rozier after three years — if you were getting Jeff Teague for years 4-8 of his career, what would pay?
Ah yeah, forgot he was an UFA. Considering Rozier has a year left and is an RFA after that, I would value him higher than #13 alone. Problem is teams always seem to get enamoured with picks around May & June. I also don’t know what other asset/s I would want in addition to the pick. LAC aren’t exactly brimming with promising players or contributing cheap vets.

Hopefully Rozier doesn’t demand Teague level money

I would do it

Then pick Divicenzo.   If Smart doesn't resign/Celtics won't match....then sign Larkin for cheap and give him more mins.   


DiVincenzo at 13?? Cmon man, there will be way better prospects available there. Sexton, Williams, Shai GA, Miles Bridges and Troy Brown may all likely be available at that spot, and they’re much better picks than DiV

Didn't they say that also when Rozier went 16th?

Divicenzo is this drafts Brogdon imo.   And we all know Brogdon should have gone much higher.

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Re: Poll: would you trade Rozier for the 13th pick
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2018, 12:09:16 PM »

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there are rumors that the Suns with the 16th pick are interested in Divicenzo. And if not alot of mocks have Divicenzo going 19th to the Spurs

13 for Divicenzo might be a tad high, but to prevent the above, you may need to overpay

Divicenzo is a very good fit for the Celtics

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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2018, 12:12:12 PM »

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Considering Rozier is a former #16 pick and after the kind of playoffs he had... I'd be upset if we simply dealt him for #13.

If we trade Rozier in a package to move up, I'd prefer it's in the 1-10 range to be honest.
That just seems to be the market these days. Like with Teague, who had put together a much longer and consistent (and better) body of work than Rozier. He didn't get Atlanta a very strong pick

He got Atlanta the #12 pick heading into unrestricted free agency.  Teague is actually a pretty solid comp for Rozier after three years — if you were getting Jeff Teague for years 4-8 of his career, what would pay?
Jeff Teague was an all star that had performed at a reasonable level for years.  He is not a good comp of Terry Rozier. 

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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2018, 12:14:47 PM »

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Considering Rozier is a former #16 pick and after the kind of playoffs he had... I'd be upset if we simply dealt him for #13.

If we trade Rozier in a package to move up, I'd prefer it's in the 1-10 range to be honest.
That just seems to be the market these days. Like with Teague, who had put together a much longer and consistent (and better) body of work than Rozier. He didn't get Atlanta a very strong pick

He got Atlanta the #12 pick heading into unrestricted free agency.  Teague is actually a pretty solid comp for Rozier after three years — if you were getting Jeff Teague for years 4-8 of his career, what would pay?
Jeff Teague was an all star that had performed at a reasonable level for years.  He is not a good comp of Terry Rozier.

Jeff Teague after year 3 is a very good comp for Rozier after year 3.  That is what I said.
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