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Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2018, 02:49:06 PM »

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PG is probably deeper
Young
Sexton
Shai G-A
Shamet
Simons
Holiday
Milton
Melton
Brunson
Carter
Graham
Battle
Duval
Carr

 Plus all the Euros
i consider simons and Carr to be SG but I agree there’s A lot of Pg

I still like the SHooting guards better. How many drafts have this many good shooting guards?

Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2018, 03:04:51 PM »

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Is there any article unified about the prospects we will likely target at 27? (haven't been paying attention)

Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2018, 03:16:23 PM »

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Is there any article unified about the prospects we will likely target at 27? (haven't been paying attention)
Mock drafts on The Ringer and ESPN pair Boston with the same prospect—De'Anthony Melton, a defensive-minded guard out of USC

"Melton looked to be on the verge of a breakout season for USC before the FBI's investigation into recruiting shut him down indefinitely," ESPN's Jonathan Givony wrote. "His defensive versatility, toughness and intangibles make him a prospect worth investing in."

The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor sees shades of Marcus Smart in Melton, meaning the latter could be a cheap replacement option should the former prove too costly.

Bleacher Report's Jonathan Wasserman linked three other names to Boston.

The first is Missouri big man Jontay Porter, whose per-40-minute marks included the modern mix of 3.7 assists, 2.7 blocks and 2.0 threes. (Important to note porter is going to stay in college and not enter draft ) The others are Duke guards Gary Trent Jr. and Grayson Allen. Trent made 2.6 threes per game at a 40.2 percent clip, while Allen, who averaged 21.6 points as a sophomore, posted personal bests as a senior in assists (4.6), steals (1.7) and defensive win shares (2.0).

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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2018, 03:41:54 PM »

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Is there any article unified about the prospects we will likely target at 27? (haven't been paying attention)
Mock drafts on The Ringer and ESPN pair Boston with the same prospect—De'Anthony Melton, a defensive-minded guard out of USC

"Melton looked to be on the verge of a breakout season for USC before the FBI's investigation into recruiting shut him down indefinitely," ESPN's Jonathan Givony wrote. "His defensive versatility, toughness and intangibles make him a prospect worth investing in."

The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor sees shades of Marcus Smart in Melton, meaning the latter could be a cheap replacement option should the former prove too costly.

Bleacher Report's Jonathan Wasserman linked three other names to Boston.

The first is Missouri big man Jontay Porter, whose per-40-minute marks included the modern mix of 3.7 assists, 2.7 blocks and 2.0 threes. (Important to note porter is going to stay in college and not enter draft ) The others are Duke guards Gary Trent Jr. and Grayson Allen. Trent made 2.6 threes per game at a 40.2 percent clip, while Allen, who averaged 21.6 points as a sophomore, posted personal bests as a senior in assists (4.6), steals (1.7) and defensive win shares (2.0).
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Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2018, 05:41:41 PM »

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Watched some Melton videos
My take is not that impressive
1.He play physical but does he have strength to guard nba 4/5 when switched on?
2.Personality seems like lack of "it" to perform on the road/big games

Most importantly i feel if you want a swiss army knife role player who can do rebound/assist/defense but limited on O why not just choose a big3~4 size player, to me 1~2 position has to be your main scoring punch since they will always be limited on the board/defense compared to other position, but they can use their fire power/PG skills to compensate/override that, and i think Danny is targeting on that too(Semi/Yabu)



Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2018, 07:36:08 PM »

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can any of these shoot better than Smart ?

Can any of these play better than Smart? um, nope!

Yes. Rawle Alkins.

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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2018, 07:41:14 PM »

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can any of these shoot better than Smart ?

Can any of these play better than Smart? um, nope!

Yes. Rawle Alkins.
I also think Troy Brown has a legit shot at being better than Smart, but will almost definitely be gone before we pick

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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2018, 07:43:21 PM »

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So when are all these guys going to be better than Smart? In 2-3 years? Who will be better than Smart this year? Who has enough strength/size/weight/tenacity to swith on bigs and hold your own. I doubt any and we are going for it next year - not 3 years from now.


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Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2018, 12:35:47 AM »

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PG is probably deeper
Young
Sexton
Shai G-A
Shamet
Simons
Holiday
Milton
Melton
Brunson
Carter
Graham
Battle
Duval
Carr

 Plus all the Euros
i consider simons and Carr to be SG but I agree there’s A lot of Pg

I still like the SHooting guards better. How many drafts have this many good shooting guards?
Thing is the majority of these SGs lack in a lot of areas. The PGs are very complete as far as skills in comparison.
Mock "trade deadline" team: Blazers.
PG-Lillard, Napier, Baldwin
SG-McCollum, Connaughton, Wilcox
SF-Fournier, Harkless, Layman
PF-Aminu, Davis
C- Nurkic, Leonard, Collins

Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2018, 01:35:10 AM »

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can any of these shoot better than Smart ?

Can any of these play better than Smart? um, nope!

Yes. Rawle Alkins.

Not likely.  But we can sign him when he goes undrafted.
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Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2018, 02:30:57 AM »

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can any of these shoot better than Smart ?

Can any of these play better than Smart? um, nope!

Yes. Rawle Alkins.

Not likely.  But we can sign him when he goes undrafted.
Is he likely to go undrafted?

Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2018, 02:43:59 AM »

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can any of these shoot better than Smart ?

Can any of these play better than Smart? um, nope!

Yes. Rawle Alkins.

Not likely.  But we can sign him when he goes undrafted.

On what are you basing this statement?

Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2018, 07:52:18 AM »

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can any of these shoot better than Smart ?

Can any of these play better than Smart? um, nope!

Yes. Rawle Alkins.

Not likely.  But we can sign him when he goes undrafted.

On what are you basing this statement?

That I think he’s only about a 50/50 chance to get drafted, and that you have a penchant for really liking players that go undrafted (Daniel Ochefu comes to mind, but I know you’ve had others as well).  Regardless of his draft status, however, thinking that a wing who was only okay as a college shooter, was inconsistent defensively in terms of effort, and has zero ability to run an offense will be better than Smart is either offering some very aggressive projection for Alkins, completely overlooking that Smart is a capable PG even without a shot, or both.  With you, I lean more towards the former than the latter.  But Alkins projects as a 3&D wing who currently has shown an inconsistent 3 and inconsistent D.  Maybe he’ll get drafted.  Maybe he’ll make it in the NBA.  But no way will he be as good as Smart, flaws and all.
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Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2018, 08:31:07 AM »

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can any of these shoot better than Smart ?

Can any of these play better than Smart? um, nope!

Well you do realize offense is half the game right? So coming to that revelation it is easy to say many of them could be better than Smart when talking about a fully rounded player!

Re: Forget bigs, the upcoming draft is DEEP with shooting guards
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2018, 09:40:02 AM »

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Does Melton interest any of you guys? He's more of a combo guard but I can see Danny liking him, tenacious defender and seems to be able to carve out an AB like career given he works on that shot, maybe with more slashing and ball handling.

Very much so, and he's the perfect guy to pick at 27. At that position, we need somebody with a binary outcome (i.e., small chance to become a star, bigger chance not to make it long-term); we're done with role players. Given how little info we have on the guy because he was out for the season, he may fall.

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