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Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2018, 09:54:10 PM »

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Roseanne's words didn't effect just her. Over 200 people lose their jobs because of the cancellation and Disney also loses the revenue from sponsors advertising on the #1 show in America. So she not only goes racist but screws over a bunch of people.
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That's on ABC. They coulda just written her off the show. I suppose they still could.

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2018, 10:04:35 PM »

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Roseanne's words didn't effect just her. Over 200 people lose their jobs because of the cancellation and Disney also loses the revenue from sponsors advertising on the #1 show in America. So she not only goes racist but screws over a bunch of people.
Affect

That's on ABC. They coulda just written her off the show. I suppose they still could.
Writing her off the show that bears her name would have been quite a trick.
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Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2018, 01:05:14 AM »

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Of course she should be fired...really Idiotic tweet....

But, ABC/ESPN just hired that Huge ****bag, Keith Olbermann---His tweets are some the worst things you'll ever read.

Neither should have a job on television.

Come on man, you can't pique my curiosity without a link. I just googled around quickly and didn't see anything comparable from Olbermann. I have no opinion on Olbermann, just wondering what he said. Yes, I'm taking your bait.  ;D

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Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2018, 02:26:30 AM »

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Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2018, 07:16:13 AM »

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Roseanne's words didn't effect just her. Over 200 people lose their jobs because of the cancellation and Disney also loses the revenue from sponsors advertising on the #1 show in America. So she not only goes racist but screws over a bunch of people.
Affect

That's on ABC. They coulda just written her off the show. I suppose they still could.
Writing her off the show that bears her name would have been quite a trick.
They had nothing to lose at that point.

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2018, 08:04:33 AM »

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Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2018, 08:07:24 AM »

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Roseanne is back on twitter.  Says her comments are indefensible, that her fans shouldn't be defending her, and were the result of ambien at 2 am.  She also apologized generally and directly to Ms. Jarrett.  Damage control at its finest, but probably not enough to save her show. 

That said, these type of comments are nothing new from Roseanne so I'm not sure what any one was really expecting and certainly someone like Sara Gilbert knew this about Roseanne when she agreed to do the show again.  I find her indignation to be a bit much, over the top, and frankly a fair amount hypocritical. 

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #67 on: May 30, 2018, 08:39:34 AM »

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Of course she should be fired...really Idiotic tweet....

But, ABC/ESPN just hired that Huge ****bag, Keith Olbermann---His tweets are some the worst things you'll ever read.

Neither should have a job on television.

Come on man, you can't pique my curiosity without a link. I just googled around quickly and didn't see anything comparable from Olbermann. I have no opinion on Olbermann, just wondering what he said. Yes, I'm taking your bait.  ;D

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1001549187572555776

That's a collage of Olbermann tweets in which he insults Trump. There is nothing remotely racist in those tweets. Vulgarity is fine, racism is not.

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #68 on: May 30, 2018, 08:47:39 AM »

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I don't feel sad/angry when reading Roseanne's tweets- she clearly crossed the line and is now facing consequences. I feel bad when I jump on twitter and see how many people are supporting her in her right to make awful comments to black people. Sometimes I have complete faith in humanity. Other times, like this morning, I feel a little down on where we are in 2018.

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #69 on: May 30, 2018, 10:56:55 AM »

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Roseanne's words didn't effect just her. Over 200 people lose their jobs because of the cancellation and Disney also loses the revenue from sponsors advertising on the #1 show in America. So she not only goes racist but screws over a bunch of people.
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That's on ABC. They coulda just written her off the show. I suppose they still could.
Writing her off the show that bears her name would have been quite a trick.

Which was quite an issue back when the show was first on. It's the reason Home Improvement was not The Tim Allen Show. Specifically, they didn't want to follow Roseanne with lack of flexibility with its star (and many other shows did the same around the time).

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #70 on: May 30, 2018, 11:12:08 AM »

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I'm not defending her or what she said. She deserves any punishment she gets. My question though is if you're a star and on something like Ambien, why allow yourself access to social media?

You're just asking for trouble.


Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #71 on: May 30, 2018, 11:19:47 AM »

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I ask again, what damage was done by Roseanne's tweet that was not done by its proliferation in media reports about it? I think this is an important point to consider. I'm not defending the comment, I'm criticizing the basis for its power/harm.

If the comment itself is harmful, why is it being spread beyond its original influence? If the comment is not harmful in itself, but rather the context or intent is important, why is there so little room for explanation? Why is it willfully obtuse to question the intent or context? If it's the context/intent that matters, shouldn't we examine the context/intent? The intent seems to be assumed by the very comment itself. The fact that it was made proves its insensitive, perhaps malicious intent. But that seems to indicate the comment is inherintly powerful regardless of intent. If this is the case, why can a media report the comment, introducing it to more people than those who were originally aware of it, without criticism?

Note: I don't expect anyone to truly care about this. But I think the discussion would be beneficial and ultimately more powerful than the comment, no matter its intent, could ever be.

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #72 on: May 30, 2018, 11:20:56 AM »

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I'm not defending her or what she said. She deserves any punishment she gets. My question though is if you're a star and on something like Ambien, why allow yourself access to social media?

You're just asking for trouble.

Honestly, I doubt it was Ambien. She was likely on (or off) something else. But that's speculation.

Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #73 on: May 30, 2018, 11:23:41 AM »

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I'm not defending her or what she said. She deserves any punishment she gets. My question though is if you're a star and on something like Ambien, why allow yourself access to social media?

You're just asking for trouble.

Honestly, I doubt it was Ambien. She was likely on (or off) something else. But that's speculation.

So what if she was on Ambien? How does that change anything. Does it change your thinking or does it just make you do things that you shouldn't...like tweet things that you are actually thinking.



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Re: ABC cancels the #1 show on TV (Roseanne)
« Reply #74 on: May 30, 2018, 11:30:03 AM »

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I'm not defending her or what she said. She deserves any punishment she gets. My question though is if you're a star and on something like Ambien, why allow yourself access to social media?

You're just asking for trouble.

Honestly, I doubt it was Ambien. She was likely on (or off) something else. But that's speculation.

So what if she was on Ambien? How does that change anything. Does it change your thinking or does it just make you do things that you shouldn't...like tweet things that you are actually thinking.

Iíve seen a couple of people I know do crazy things on Ambien. I would say that it may both change peopleís thinking and actions.

Iím skeptical of the ambien defense here, though. I thinking sitting down at your computer / phone takes too much cognitive clarity to send a tweet like that.


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