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Re-sign him at a price over $14 mill. He does a lot for the team
20 (14.6%)
Too much money. The Limited offense isn't worth this much
117 (85.4%)

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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #960 on: July 19, 2018, 08:53:28 AM »

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Sounds like this should get done today then, unless the sides are further apart then reported.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #961 on: July 19, 2018, 09:01:20 AM »

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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1019719850342612992

Hadn't even considered that.

Is it possible year 1 is around 14, taking us all the way up to the Apron, but then year 2 drops all the way back to around 11 or so, taking us back under the tax..

No. Annual raises or decreases are limited to 8% of the first year value of the contract.
Yep.

And even that 8% gradient would be steep enough that it means Yab is likely gone alongside Nader.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #962 on: July 19, 2018, 09:11:48 AM »

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Source says Danny Ainge and Happy Walters are meeting tiday in Boston.

https://twitter.com/murf56/status/1019919507601739776?s=21
This tweet has been deleted. Have you seen the report anywhere else? Since the time it was tweeted yesterday that they were working on a deal, has any new information come out?
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #963 on: July 19, 2018, 09:17:32 AM »

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Source says Danny Ainge and Happy Walters are meeting tiday in Boston.

https://twitter.com/murf56/status/1019919507601739776?s=21
This tweet has been deleted. Have you seen the report anywhere else? Since the time it was tweeted yesterday that they were working on a deal, has any new information come out?

There’s a similar tweet from him that still exists:

https://twitter.com/murf56/status/1019923611073826817?s=21
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #964 on: July 19, 2018, 09:18:10 AM »

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Source says Danny Ainge and Happy Walters are meeting tiday in Boston.

https://twitter.com/murf56/status/1019919507601739776?s=21
This tweet has been deleted. Have you seen the report anywhere else? Since the time it was tweeted yesterday that they were working on a deal, has any new information come out?

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Marcus Smart and his agent will meet with Celtics officials in Boston on Thursday in hopes of finalizing a deal, according to Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports.

Source: Shams Charania on Twitter Jul 19 - 9:10 AM

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019931718088785920

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #965 on: July 19, 2018, 09:19:12 AM »

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Source says Danny Ainge and Happy Walters are meeting tiday in Boston.

https://twitter.com/murf56/status/1019919507601739776?s=21
This tweet has been deleted. Have you seen the report anywhere else? Since the time it was tweeted yesterday that they were working on a deal, has any new information come out?

Marcus Smart - G - Celtics
Marcus Smart and his agent will meet with Celtics officials in Boston on Thursday in hopes of finalizing a deal, according to Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports.

Source: Shams Charania on Twitter Jul 19 - 9:10 AM

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019931718088785920

Just saw Shams tweet. You beat me to the post.
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #966 on: July 19, 2018, 09:27:10 AM »

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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1019719850342612992

Hadn't even considered that.

Is it possible year 1 is around 14, taking us all the way up to the Apron, but then year 2 drops all the way back to around 11 or so, taking us back under the tax..

No. Annual raises or decreases are limited to 8% of the first year value of the contract.
Yep.

And even that 8% gradient would be steep enough that it means Yab is likely gone alongside Nader.

I could wrap my arms around, and hug the ever living sh1t out of a 4 year contract @ $49.63 (8% decrease annually from $14m year 1). That would be $12.88 (year 2), $11.85 (year 3) and $10.9 (year 4). Average of $12.4m annually.

Or am I misunderstanding the gradient? Is it 8% total decrease from year 1 to last year of contract?
« Last Edit: July 19, 2018, 09:34:35 AM by Fireworks_Boom! »

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #967 on: July 19, 2018, 09:39:41 AM »

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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1019719850342612992

Hadn't even considered that.

Is it possible year 1 is around 14, taking us all the way up to the Apron, but then year 2 drops all the way back to around 11 or so, taking us back under the tax..

No. Annual raises or decreases are limited to 8% of the first year value of the contract.
Yep.

And even that 8% gradient would be steep enough that it means Yab is likely gone alongside Nader.

I could wrap my arms around, and hug the ever living sh1t out of a 4 year contract @ $49.63 (8% decrease annually from $14m year 1). That would be $12.88 (year 2), $11.85 (year 3) and $10.9 (year 4). Average of $12.4m annually.

Or am I misunderstanding the gradient? Is it 8% total decrease from year 1 to last year of contract?

My understanding, at least based on Roy's post, is that it is 8% per year, not total. That 8% is based on the first year, however. So if the first year is $14 million, then every year of the contract could be reduced by up to 1.12 million. In other words, the third year would be 11.76 (12.88-1.12), not 11.85 (12.88*.92).

I think.

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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #968 on: July 19, 2018, 09:42:15 AM »

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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1019719850342612992

Hadn't even considered that.

Is it possible year 1 is around 14, taking us all the way up to the Apron, but then year 2 drops all the way back to around 11 or so, taking us back under the tax..
Assuming this is the case, I bet Morris will be traded for salary relief + minor asset. Let's say a second rounder.


https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1019719850342612992

Hadn't even considered that.

Is it possible year 1 is around 14, taking us all the way up to the Apron, but then year 2 drops all the way back to around 11 or so, taking us back under the tax..

No. Annual raises or decreases are limited to 8% of the first year value of the contract.
Yep.

And even that 8% gradient would be steep enough that it means Yab is likely gone alongside Nader.

I could wrap my arms around, and hug the ever living sh1t out of a 4 year contract @ $49.63 (8% decrease annually from $14m year 1). That would be $12.88 (year 2), $11.85 (year 3) and $10.9 (year 4). Average of $12.4m annually.

Or am I misunderstanding the gradient? Is it 8% total decrease from year 1 to last year of contract?

My understanding, at least based on Roy's post, is that it is 8% per year, not total. That 8% is based on the first year, however. So if the first year is $14 million, then every year of the contract could be reduced by up to 1.12 million. In other words, the third year would be 11.76 (12.88-1.12), not 11.85 (12.88*.92).

I think.

Mike
Yep, that's how it works.

(assuming year 1 starts at $14 mil)

$14,000,000
$12,880,000
$11,760,000
$10,640,000

SUM $49,280,000
Average of $12,320,000 annually
« Last Edit: July 19, 2018, 09:52:27 AM by Jvalin »

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #969 on: July 19, 2018, 10:23:00 AM »

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Restricted free agent Marcus Smart has agreed to a four-year, $52M deal to return to the Boston Celtics, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1019950309005766656?s=21

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #970 on: July 19, 2018, 10:26:21 AM »

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Restricted free agent Marcus Smart has agreed to a four-year, $52M deal to return to the Boston Celtics, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1019950309005766656?s=21

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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #971 on: July 19, 2018, 10:26:55 AM »

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Great news! Now it’s all about Banner 18  :)

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #972 on: July 19, 2018, 10:28:32 AM »

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Good now lets go!!!!!
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #973 on: July 19, 2018, 10:28:32 AM »

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Restricted free agent Marcus Smart has agreed to a four-year, $52M deal to return to the Boston Celtics, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1019950309005766656?s=21

Hooray! The pitbull is back!

Nice!  Year one will therefore be between $11.6 and $14.8 million, meaning we are a tax team without additional moves.
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #974 on: July 19, 2018, 10:31:32 AM »

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YES!!!

FA officially began with us re-signing Baynes, and it almost ends with us re-signing Smart too! (yes, I acknowledge Capela and Melo are still out there)  ;D

Now hopefully Danny and the front office could work some magic to keep us under the tax another year. I trust they'll find a way  8)

LOVE the deal! Lock him up long term, and even if we do decide to trade for another star in the future.... that salary will be beneficial in facilitating a trade (it's something we had difficulty with this past summer in trade talks, since most of them would have required a max player OR BOTH Tatum + Brown in a package for $$$ purposes).
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