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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #840 on: July 15, 2018, 07:08:51 AM »

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this situation is pretty simple here. Smart wants 17million$ or so a year, celtics say you are worth 10-12million$ go out and see if you are worth 17million$


I would wager the QO is less, about 6-8 range.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #841 on: July 15, 2018, 11:13:10 AM »

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this situation is pretty simple here. Smart wants 17million$ or so a year, celtics say you are worth 10-12million$ go out and see if you are worth 17million$


I would wager the QO is less, about 6-8 range.
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #842 on: July 15, 2018, 11:41:33 AM »

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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #843 on: July 16, 2018, 03:09:55 AM »

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Two things:

Only Dallas, Atlanta, and Sac have enough cap room to outbid the QO. Only Sac have enough to give Smart a deal above 12million

Question: Can we split off some of the MLE and add it to the QO dollar amount and sign Smart to a 1 year deal? Then
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #844 on: July 16, 2018, 03:59:33 AM »

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Two things:

Only Dallas, Atlanta, and Sac have enough cap room to outbid the QO. Only Sac have enough to give Smart a deal above 12million

Question: Can we split off some of the MLE and add it to the QO dollar amount and sign Smart to a 1 year deal? Then

We wouldn't need the MLE because we have Smart's Bird Rights, as he's been here for 3 years or more. We can sign him to any amount up to the max at any length up to 5 years. So we could feasibly sign him to a one-year, $9M deal to stay under the cap and keep him happy then give him a longer and more lucrative deal next offseason.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #845 on: July 16, 2018, 05:45:58 PM »

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If Smart is truly going to take the QO so he can test the market next summer but otherwise wants to stay in Boston, I think the idea of a 2 year deal makes more sense.

If he thinks he's worth $16 mil and will take the QO to prove it, that would come to $22 mil over two years. So a 2-year deal at $11 mil per year gives him the same pay out over those seasons but a lot more guaranteed money and is probably pretty close to what the Celtics are offering on a longer term deal.
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #846 on: July 17, 2018, 03:52:21 PM »

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Are we in trouble now that Bjelica backed out on Philly and they have a MLE available?


Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #847 on: July 17, 2018, 03:53:25 PM »

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Are we in trouble now that Bjelica backed out on Philly and they have a MLE available?

No. We would match an MLE deal in a second.


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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #848 on: July 17, 2018, 03:54:57 PM »

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Are we in trouble now that Bjelica backed out on Philly and they have a MLE available?

No. We would match an MLE deal in a second.

They also only have their room exception available, which at $4.45 for two years million is not going to be at all attractive to Smart.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #849 on: July 17, 2018, 03:59:20 PM »

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Are we in trouble now that Bjelica backed out on Philly and they have a MLE available?

No. We would match an MLE deal in a second.

They also only have their room exception available, which at $4.45 for two years million is not going to be at all attractive to Smart.


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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #850 on: July 17, 2018, 04:54:35 PM »

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they wohld not give Smart 17 million , if all the cap room in the world was available

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #851 on: July 18, 2018, 06:46:57 AM »

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I can see sac town offering him jabari parker type of a deal 2 year 34 mil with TO. Hope he chooses winning and waiting for one more year
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #852 on: July 18, 2018, 06:52:24 AM »

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I can see sac town offering him jabari parker type of a deal 2 year 34 mil with TO. Hope he chooses winning and waiting for one more year

The deal Parker signed is not allowable while Smart is a restricted free agent. That’s why Milwaukee did Parker a favor and made him an unrestricted free agent before he signed with Chicago.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #853 on: July 18, 2018, 07:29:29 AM »

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a ~10 million dollar salary next year would be useful in an Anthony Davis deal, I starting to think a 3 year 30-33 million dollar deal with 3rd year somewhat Non guaranteed with be a valuable trade chip

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged topics]
« Reply #854 on: July 18, 2018, 09:43:17 AM »

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I can see sac town offering him jabari parker type of a deal 2 year 34 mil with TO. Hope he chooses winning and waiting for one more year

The deal Parker signed is not allowable while Smart is a restricted free agent. That’s why Milwaukee did Parker a favor and made him an unrestricted free agent before he signed with Chicago.

Wow, there is like so much to know about these cap/trade/FA things

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