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Re-sign him at a price over $14 mill. He does a lot for the team
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #975 on: July 19, 2018, 10:31:53 AM »

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YES!!!

FA officially began with us re-signing Baynes, and it almost ends with us re-signing Smart too! (yes, I acknowledge Capela and Melo are still out there)  ;D

Now hopefully Danny and the front office could work some magic to keep us under the tax another year. I trust they'll find a way  8)

LOVE the deal! Lock him up long term, and even if we do decide to trade for another star in the future.... that salary will be beneficial in facilitating a trade (it's something we had difficulty with this past summer in trade talks, since most of them would have required a max player OR BOTH Tatum + Brown in a package for $$$ purposes).
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #976 on: July 19, 2018, 10:33:22 AM »

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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #977 on: July 19, 2018, 10:38:38 AM »

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$13M/yr is a lot more than I thought he would get. He is obviously being paid on future potential rather than what he currently provides. Hopefully that contract is considered tradable because the Cs seemed to bidding against themselves.

I like Smart, I really do, but do not think it was worth it to go into the tax (or trade other valuable rotation players) to keep him above the QO. They could have essentially signed him for $15M/he next year if he just came back on the QO and still paid the same amount. Like I said, they must be banking on future potential on this deal.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #978 on: July 19, 2018, 10:41:52 AM »

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Pretty good deal for Boston compared to some of the guys money they got around the league. Plus it is a very tradable deal if need be.
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #979 on: July 19, 2018, 10:43:33 AM »

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Not even surprised Shams broke the official news first and not Woj. Yet ESPN is like "sources first tell Woj", etc.  ::)
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #980 on: July 19, 2018, 10:44:27 AM »

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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #981 on: July 19, 2018, 10:44:59 AM »

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Signing Marcus to close to what he believes he is worth was a great move. He is the heart of this team and shows we are committed to our players. No one can blame us for KI and IT. Any basketball fan knows that was a win for the Celtics. I am hopeful Marcus will stay healthy and him to find his shot too ala Jason Kidd later in his career. Love his heart; It is contagious.
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #982 on: July 19, 2018, 10:46:03 AM »

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This was about the most Marcus was gonna get from us, so kudos to him.  It feels kinda like the equivalent of the Avery Bradley deal from a few years back, just under the bigger cap. Hopefully Marcus can use the windfall to pay someone to fight picture frames for him.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #983 on: July 19, 2018, 10:46:21 AM »

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Im no expert on the cap but do we have any more capspace to sign a vet to a mini salary?? Alex Len or someone like him
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #984 on: July 19, 2018, 10:47:42 AM »

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This deal is awesome. While it may be more than what the market is dictating for a player of his caliber, I feel like he gave a little bit by locking into a 4 year contract vs. shorter term. He offers intangibles and locker room presence at a minimum and becomes a decent trade chip moving forward given contract matching.

Glad he is with us though...lets stop thinking about trading away players for crying outloud. LOL

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #985 on: July 19, 2018, 10:48:09 AM »

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Im no expert on the cap but do we have any more capspace to sign a vet to a mini salary?? Alex Len or someone like him

You dont need cap space to sign anyone to a minimum salary (unless subject to the hard cap, which the Cs are not at present).
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #986 on: July 19, 2018, 10:50:36 AM »

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Im no expert on the cap but do we have any more capspace to sign a vet to a mini salary?? Alex Len or someone like him

You dont need cap space to sign anyone to a minimum salary (unless subject to the hard cap, which the Cs are not at present).

So are we good to sign Jabari Bird now, or did Smart's signing price us out?
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Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #987 on: July 19, 2018, 10:51:46 AM »

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If we are going over the tax this year we might as well use our mid level exception at some point. Lol

I wonder what the specifics are if its frontloaded, a trade kicker ect.

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #988 on: July 19, 2018, 10:54:14 AM »

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was just curious looking at stats

https://stats.nba.com/players/defense/?sort=DEF_WS&dir=-1

Smart is a top 10 defensive player according to this but i honestly don't think this is that accurate, cuz Draymond Green is at 28

Re: Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]
« Reply #989 on: July 19, 2018, 10:58:48 AM »

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Im no expert on the cap but do we have any more capspace to sign a vet to a mini salary?? Alex Len or someone like him

You dont need cap space to sign anyone to a minimum salary (unless subject to the hard cap, which the Cs are not at present).

So are we good to sign Jabari Bird now, or did Smart's signing price us out?

Time will tell I guess.  We have a qualifying offer of a 2-way contract out to him, and can match any offer unless Sacramento gives him a ridiculous sum of money (over $5.3 million in year one).  Since were already in the tax, its less likely a team will give him an offer because its more likely we match (as he wouldnt be thebplayer putting us into the tax).  So maybe well still sign him to a Semi-style deal, maybe well convince him to take the QO so that we can lessen the tax bill or get under the tax more easily, or maybe hell go to Europe (in which case wed still have his rights next summer and until he comes back or we relinquish them).  I dont think a team at this point tries to outbid us.
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