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Is futility behind Lebrons physical collapse
« on: May 24, 2018, 08:32:58 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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James must realize the annihilation that the Final would bring at the hands of all stars.
.Better to go out from the exhaustion of carrying a non supporting cast.The accumulation of minutes played this season to carry this team,this far, all year was Herculean.
I think outside coming back in Cleveland for one last win might be in his script.
But the Friday night game doesn't give him much time unless some trick of modern day medicine allows him a unreal recovery.

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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2018, 08:37:13 AM »

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He's older and plays a TON of minutes sooner or later that catches up to you. Is that what is going on now? I don't know.

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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2018, 08:58:36 AM »

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I've seen him have bad games before and I've seen him be dehydrated, but he looks like he's finally feeling his basketball age. It's an old team and this is their last ride. Doesn't mean we're going to win because our basketball age is really young and experience counts.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2018, 09:01:33 AM »

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Let's just remember that the game where people are claiming James failed physically he scored 26 points, shooting 50% from the field, grabbed 10 rebounds, and dished out 5 assists.  He did have 6 turnovers and he played over 39 minutes.  I'll take that sort of physical failure all of the time from my players. 

The Cavs problems have been and continue to be that Ty Lue is a downright awful coach.  He has no understanding of rotations, play calling, etc.  He is just awful.  I mean this a guy who said Kyle Korver didn't play more minutes because Semi Ojeleye was removed from Boston's rotation.  Here is the exact quote "Well, initially, he's been putting Ojeleye in," Lue said of Stevens after the game Wednesday. "So that's been kind of Kyle's matchup when he comes in the game. He didn't play him tonight, so it kind of threw us for a loop."  Semi Ojeleye not playing threw the Cavs for a loop and led to Korver playing only like 18 minutes.  That sums up the Cavs problems and is all anyone really needs to know.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2018, 09:03:52 AM »

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As much as I hate him...I would be really worried about a game 7 with him willing the Cavs to a win. Need to get it done in Cleveland.

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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2018, 09:05:34 AM »

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Let's just remember that the game where people are claiming James failed physically he scored 26 points, shooting 50% from the field, grabbed 10 rebounds, and dished out 5 assists.  He did have 6 turnovers and he played over 39 minutes.  I'll take that sort of physical failure all of the time from my players. 

The Cavs problems have been and continue to be that Ty Lue is a downright awful coach.  He has no understanding of rotations, play calling, etc.  He is just awful.  I mean this a guy who said Kyle Korver didn't play more minutes because Semi Ojeleye was removed from Boston's rotation.  Here is the exact quote "Well, initially, he's been putting Ojeleye in," Lue said of Stevens after the game Wednesday. "So that's been kind of Kyle's matchup when he comes in the game. He didn't play him tonight, so it kind of threw us for a loop."  Semi Ojeleye not playing threw the Cavs for a loop and led to Korver playing only like 18 minutes.  That sums up the Cavs problems and is all anyone really needs to know.

Agreed on both points. Lebron had a good game overall, just not a superhuman game. The tired narrative is overblown.

Lue is absolutely awful. JR Smith was proactively killing the Cavs on both ends of the floor and Lue insists on playing him major minutes. He also made absolutely no adjustment to Baynes joining the starting lineup. Your guys are older, slower, and more tired? You got some good, athletic young guys on the bench in Nance, Clarkson, Osman and Hood. Use them! They actually cut the lead in half when he went with them for a stretch,

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2018, 09:05:51 AM »

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LBJ played more minutes than anyone during the regular season, and is leading the league again in the playoffs. This is on top of a heavy year-over-year burden. He's been in the finals 7 straight years, and he hasn't missed much due to injury. I'd be shocked if anybody has played more basketball than he has over the last seven years. It's got to catch up to you. Incredible he decided not to rest up toward the end of the year.

I'm kind of hoping the Lakers mortgage their future to get James and PG13, and it's not enough because LeBron has lost a step and, well, PG13 isn't his old self anymore either. If LeBron wants to chase a title, he almost has to go to Houston.

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Let's just remember that the game where people are claiming James failed physically he scored 26 points, shooting 50% from the field, grabbed 10 rebounds, and dished out 5 assists.  He did have 6 turnovers and he played over 39 minutes.  I'll take that sort of physical failure all of the time from my players. 

The Cavs problems have been and continue to be that Ty Lue is a downright awful coach.  He has no understanding of rotations, play calling, etc.  He is just awful.  I mean this a guy who said Kyle Korver didn't play more minutes because Semi Ojeleye was removed from Boston's rotation.  Here is the exact quote "Well, initially, he's been putting Ojeleye in," Lue said of Stevens after the game Wednesday. "So that's been kind of Kyle's matchup when he comes in the game. He didn't play him tonight, so it kind of threw us for a loop."  Semi Ojeleye not playing threw the Cavs for a loop and led to Korver playing only like 18 minutes.  That sums up the Cavs problems and is all anyone really needs to know.
This is all true, but the point that LeBron looked defeated out there is still true. True to the point where Marc Jackson was saying it. Marc freakin Jackson. I’ve never seen that from LeBron. The cramp game and all the other failures in his career have a different feel to this one.

He just looked done out there.

Ty Lue is hilariously inept though
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I believe Lue is playing JR Smith because he wants Lebron to lose.

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He's older and plays a TON of minutes sooner or later that catches up to you. Is that what is going on now? I don't know.

TP.  He's a lot older now and they've relied so much on him these last few years that he's eventually going to slow down.  All great players do.  Now Lebron slowing down is a lot different then other players because Lebron still plays at a level 99% of the players in the NBA can't play at.  But it's good to see that he is faltering to the finish line. 

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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2018, 09:23:06 AM »

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I told you these old guys would start to get noodle legs. Games every other day and travel will not effect our young guys. I think we can catch them sleeping in game 6 and play more relaxed. I would push the pace early and keep it close. Lue isn't playing any of his young guys and his vets are gassed.

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They shouldn't have let him play so many minutes in the regular season.
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I told you these old guys would start to get noodle legs. Games every other day and travel will not effect our young guys. I think we can catch them sleeping in game 6 and play more relaxed. I would push the pace early and keep it close. Lue isn't playing any of his young guys and his vets are gassed.
Why Calderon gets no minutes is beyond me. You get Behind Korver is the frist Guy you put in.
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Hate see him blame other and point to them when he makes a mistake..no wonder kyrie wanted out
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