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Offline green_bballers13

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I assume by Memphis shopping the pick it means they are going hard after impact talent like kawhi Leonard to pair with Conley and Gasol.

I imagine the suns are just doing their due diligence.

I could see Rozier and the Kings 1st getting the 8th pick though.

Have you watched any of these draft picks? #8 isn't getting you a lot this year. I'm not sure the 8th best player in this draft would get minutes on the Celtics next year.

Also, have you seen SAC play basketball this year? They're brutal. I think the SAC pick has a better chance of being more valuable than the 8th pick this year.

I am all set with Trae Young or another player with clear flaws. Top 3 pick? Sure, make that trade.

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It is what have you done for me lately, and KAT has not done crap on the defensive side of the ball!!  I will gladly say the same about Ayton IF he puts up three straight years of abysmal NBA defense in his first three years!!

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It is what have you done for me lately, and KAT has not done crap on the defensive side of the ball!!  I will gladly say the same about Ayton IF he puts up three straight years of abysmal NBA defense in his first three years!!

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Yes it does, inside and outside. 😋😂

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I agree with those saying KAT Is garbage on d

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It is what have you done for me lately, and KAT has not done crap on the defensive side of the ball!!  I will gladly say the same about Ayton IF he puts up three straight years of abysmal NBA defense in his first three years!!

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Yes it does, inside and outside. 😋😂

Lol. Oh you ;D.

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Is there any way we can realistically get the 4th pick from the Grizzlies and hopefully an extra asset or two by trading Kyrie without taking on **** contracts?
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Is there any way we can realistically get the 4th pick from the Grizzlies and hopefully an extra asset or two by trading Kyrie without taking on **** contracts?

Yes. You would need a third team though.

Something like Mem pick and Jamychal to Boston, Kyrie to Milwaukee, and some combination of iIlwaukee's assets (Parker, Maker, Bledsoe, Dellevadova) to Memphis might work.

Memphis would be advised to go all in for the next two/three years with Gasol and Conley -- they just need to add wings and depth.
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Is there any way we can realistically get the 4th pick from the Grizzlies and hopefully an extra asset or two by trading Kyrie without taking on **** contracts?

Yes. You would need a third team though.

Something like Mem pick and Jamychal to Boston, Kyrie to Milwaukee, and some combination of iIlwaukee's assets (Parker, Maker, Bledsoe, Dellevadova) to Memphis might work.

Memphis would be advised to go all in for the next two/three years with Gasol and Conley -- they just need to add wings and depth.
Do we really want to pair Kyrie with Giannis, under Coach Bud? After taking us to 7 games I feel like that team would kill us

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CB forums obsession with draft picks and trading to get high draft picks continues.

We have a championship level roster right now why would we rock that boat for MOAH rookies!

Be quiet Chilly we need to move Rozier and Irving because having 2 talented guards on the same roster will NEVAH win you a ring!! MOAH ROOKIES!!!

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If we get #4 we could trade up with the Suns using some of our future draft capital

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CB forums obsession with draft picks and trading to get high draft picks continues.

We have a championship level roster right now why would we rock that boat for MOAH rookies!

Be quiet Chilly we need to move Rozier and Irving because having 2 talented guards on the same roster will NEVAH win you a ring!! MOAH ROOKIES!!!

Yeah, people always wanna trade up for top picks.  But this year even I want to do this.  I mean, we can't take on all the draft picks we have, we have 4 guards that need more minutes than we can play them, and we need a young big of which there are tons in this draft.

People are talking about Bamba the most, but I actually question his fit with his lack of passing and needing to develop a 3.  Jaren Jackson Jr looks like a better version of Bamba and he should be at 4, and Wendell Carter who could be there at 7 looks like a truly amazing fit for us. 

This year, with the amount of picks and guards we have, I don't think these fantasies are as nuts as usual.  I mean, c'mon, I've got them... they can't be nuts!
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CB forums obsession with draft picks and trading to get high draft picks continues.

We have a championship level roster right now why would we rock that boat for MOAH rookies!

Be quiet Chilly we need to move Rozier and Irving because having 2 talented guards on the same roster will NEVAH win you a ring!! MOAH ROOKIES!!!

Yeah, people always wanna trade up for top picks.  But this year even I want to do this.  I mean, we can't take on all the draft picks we have, we have 4 guards that need more minutes than we can play them, and we need a young big of which there are tons in this draft.

People are talking about Bamba the most, but I actually question his fit with his lack of passing and needing to develop a 3.  Jaren Jackson Jr looks like a better version of Bamba and he should be at 4, and Wendell Carter who could be there at 7 looks like a truly amazing fit for us. 

This year, with the amount of picks and guards we have, I don't think these fantasies are as nuts as usual.  I mean, c'mon, I've got them... they can't be nuts!

I should clarify also- I'm not firmly in the trade Rozier camp, but Danny is an asset manager.  It would be in his character to flip Rozier (and consolidate a draft asset or two) to get a highly valuable asset more likely than a player, due to our cap situation and the fact that a player of that value would clearly put us in the tax. 

But if he matched outgoing salary to acquire the #4 or #6 pick and drafted that player, he'd have him for 4-8 years and on the same timeline as Jaylen, Jayson, and Kyrie. A big 4 of the future to match our current big whatever of KI, JB, GH, JT and Al.

The core thing here is, I don't think we could replace Rozier when he plays 30-40 minutes a night.  He's an above average starting PG and the best player in a backup guard role.

The key to me is, if he only plays backup minutes and shares them with Smart, the fact is, his production or at least 75% of it should be replaceable on a vet min contract given our current stature in the NBA.  So if he starts, he's immensely valuable.  If Kyrie never gets hurt and Rozier never starts or plays 30 minutes, he doesn't add nearly as much value.

Now imagine Horford getting hurt.  How would Tatum, Baynes and Theis hold down the fort vs. Brown, Smart and Rozier?  To me, we need depth at PF/C with an athletic 2-way player as much as we need Rozier's depth at guard, and I think you can find 2-3 of those PF/C at #4 or #6.
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I read something about Doncic dropping into the 4 spot. I find this very unrealistic but stranger things have happened. If Doncic drops to 4 Danny should throw a godfather offer at the Grizz. Change Rozzier and picks ( as many as 4) into Doncic.

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CB forums obsession with draft picks and trading to get high draft picks continues.

We have a championship level roster right now why would we rock that boat for MOAH rookies!

Be quiet Chilly we need to move Rozier and Irving because having 2 talented guards on the same roster will NEVAH win you a ring!! MOAH ROOKIES!!!

Yeah, people always wanna trade up for top picks.  But this year even I want to do this.  I mean, we can't take on all the draft picks we have, we have 4 guards that need more minutes than we can play them, and we need a young big of which there are tons in this draft.

People are talking about Bamba the most, but I actually question his fit with his lack of passing and needing to develop a 3.  Jaren Jackson Jr looks like a better version of Bamba and he should be at 4, and Wendell Carter who could be there at 7 looks like a truly amazing fit for us. 

This year, with the amount of picks and guards we have, I don't think these fantasies are as nuts as usual.  I mean, c'mon, I've got them... they can't be nuts!

I should clarify also- I'm not firmly in the trade Rozier camp, but Danny is an asset manager.  It would be in his character to flip Rozier (and consolidate a draft asset or two) to get a highly valuable asset more likely than a player, due to our cap situation and the fact that a player of that value would clearly put us in the tax. 

But if he matched outgoing salary to acquire the #4 or #6 pick and drafted that player, he'd have him for 4-8 years and on the same timeline as Jaylen, Jayson, and Kyrie. A big 4 of the future to match our current big whatever of KI, JB, GH, JT and Al.

The core thing here is, I don't think we could replace Rozier when he plays 30-40 minutes a night.  He's an above average starting PG and the best player in a backup guard role.

The key to me is, if he only plays backup minutes and shares them with Smart, the fact is, his production or at least 75% of it should be replaceable on a vet min contract given our current stature in the NBA.  So if he starts, he's immensely valuable.  If Kyrie never gets hurt and Rozier never starts or plays 30 minutes, he doesn't add nearly as much value.

Now imagine Horford getting hurt.  How would Tatum, Baynes and Theis hold down the fort vs. Brown, Smart and Rozier?  To me, we need depth at PF/C with an athletic 2-way player as much as we need Rozier's depth at guard, and I think you can find 2-3 of those PF/C at #4 or #6.
Don't we have Rozier under control for the next 5 years? What makes you think after three years, when we are looking at having to pay this rookie that the everyone isn't going to be saying we need to trade this developing rookie because his rookie contract is up in a year and we need to trade him while his value is high? Seems I have heard this idea every year since Sullinger.

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I'd trade Rozier and Sac pick for #4. I'd throw in this years 1st also.

First, I expect Rozier to be gone in a year and second, I'm not sold on him. He's still very inconsistent. Plays well at home and sucks on the road. Nice guard off the bench, but I personally don't see him as being more than a slightly above starter.

Second, The Kings weren't that bad this year. I believe they had the 6st worse record. Given they have the #2 pick this year, I could see them having a pick somewhere in the 6-10 range. I'd rather have #4 this years.

Third, I don't really care about the 27th pick. Might get someone you can develop, but just as soon see them give Bird a shot if they have space on the roster.

I think I'd even throw in another pick down the road. This team is still lacking depth at the big, and if next year is the year, they are going to need some.