He's lost 5 times in the finals Lol
I absolutely hate this argument.
So Lebron is 3-5 in 8 finals appearances. Larry bird was 3-2 in 5 appearances. It's easy to say winning 3/5 is better than winning 3/8, but this ignores the fact that this unfortunately means BIRD LOST MORE EVEN EARLIER IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!! It is better to win the conference finals and lose in the finals than to just lose in the conference finals. If you are going by "winning," if you have the same number of titles it is more impressive to have won your conference more often and made more finals appearances.
Same thing happened in some of the Brady arguments. "Montana was 4-0, Brady was 4-2"(before the ATL + PHI superbowls). But this means Montana couldn't even make it to the big game a few times, meaning he couldn't even get out of his own conference 2 extra times.
As an aside, here is an interesting 538 article from a couple years ago (before Lebron's cleveland title but after the first GS loss) showing various MVP players and their predicted finals wins vs actual finals wins.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebrons-finals-record-isnt-really-a-disappointment/
Ok, but try to imagine Larry, Magic, and Dr J getting together on a team. How many rings does that team win? That's Bron. Bron can't ride a bike without 2 all stars to help him.
Larry and Magic had multiple all-stars to help them and better overall teams than Lebron did
McHale>> Wade, Irving, Parrish >> Bosh, Love
Kareem>> Wade, Irving, Worthy >> Bosh, Love
They also weren't quitters.
A team with two all stars (including the supposed best player on Earth) is about to get beat by a team with one all star. And not just beat but beaten up. Did stuff like that happen to Magic and Larry?
Yes. In fact, in 83 Bird was swept out of the playoffs in the 2nd round by the Milwaukee Bucks. Now granted both Moncrief and Johnson made the 83 All Star game, and Bird missed a game in the series, but they still had Bird for 3, along with Parish, McHale, Ainge, Henderson, Maxwell, and Tiny and got embarrassed by a team without a single HOFer under the age of 34 (that was Bob Lanier at the tail end of his career).
The Lakers won the title in 80 and then lost in the 1st round in 81 to the Rockets. Now the Rockets were led by Moses Malone, who made the all star team, but that year both Kareem and Wilkes were all stars, and Magic was not. In those days the 1st round was only 3 games, but it is still a pretty embarrassing loss for the defending champs (the Lakers would also win the 82 title). The 86 Lakers also got embarrassed by the Rockets, who were Hakeem, Sampson, and a bunch of crap and had no where near the top end talent of depth of the Lakers (Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Cooper, Scott). The Lakers won game 1 and then were blitzed in the next 3 before losing a close game 5.
This idea that great teams of the past were never embarrassed in the playoffs by inferior competition is just hog wash.