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Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2018, 04:25:31 PM »

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Nobody said Terry is better than Kyrie, although he is a much better defender and rebounder.

I just think the overall lineup with a top-10 center + Rozier is better than a lineup with Kyrie + Baynes.

What if other assets (IE first round picks) get thrown into the deal?  Do you think that this lineup:

Irving
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Baynes

is better than this one?

Rozier
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Adams/Gobert?

I think the latter is much better come playoff time...

Kyrie Evans for Steven Adams?  No thanks. Poor return for Boston.

In what world is Rozier better than Kyrie, and why are people so insistent on trading away Kyrie, when having a surplus of guards is always useful to have?

Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2018, 04:27:21 PM »

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To answer your question, Boston says no.

If Celtics have to dip far into the threshold to pay someone, by the way the Hayward/JT issue doesn't happen until 2-3 years down the line, I don't see anyone getting moved other than Rozier.
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Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2018, 04:31:00 PM »

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Boston says no to Adams.

Utah says no to trading Gobert.

Kawhi for Kyrie? The value is similar.


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Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2018, 11:00:11 AM »

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I don't really see a single reason why would we make our leading scorer tradeble at all. Sensless discussion...

Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2018, 11:14:07 AM »

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Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2018, 11:17:05 AM »

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Boston says no to Adams.

Utah says no to trading Gobert.

Kawhi for Kyrie? The value is similar.

At the same time, working on a hypothetical premise of assuming Kyrie becomes expendable for a trade because we have Terry to fill his shoes.

Isn't it counter intuitive to bring Kawhi with that reasoning for a team that has Tatum and Brown?

Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2018, 11:17:21 AM »

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So OKC basically gets Kawhi Leonard for Steven Adams?? Celtics trade Irving for freakin' Adams?

I mean yeah, I like Adams and think he's underrated, but good grief he isn't even close to the level of either Kawhi or Kyrie.
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Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2018, 11:56:28 AM »

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I'll try to help here...

I think that a major problem that you're having (other than mis-valuing Kyrie's worth) is overvaluing Baynes' role on this team. Sure, he's playing fantastic on Embiid, but Brad wants to play Horford at center... that's his preferred lineup. The role of a "big center" is not something that we want to design our team around. It's something that you have in your back pocket in case the match up needs it. The Celtics will never give up any serious pieces for a big center, and especially not Kyrie. There has been a lot of precedence for this over the last 5 years and I don't see it changing any time soon. They basically only dig deep for value free agents on low salaries for this role.

Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2018, 12:07:12 PM »

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Dear god no.

Trading a top 3 PG for a good, not great center. And OKC get a top 7 player in the league for said good, not great center. We easily come off worst

Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2018, 12:08:54 PM »

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Why are we getting Steven Adams and OKC is getting Kawhi Leonard while giving up Kyrie Irving.

NO. Rather save our assets to try and get Anthony Davis. Heck even Clint Capela is a better option than Steven Adams.

Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2018, 12:14:56 PM »

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Re: Who says no? OKC, SA, or Boston?
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2018, 12:20:05 PM »

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Irving for Adams is absurd to think about.

Irving for Leonard? Now that is more realistic. Depsite having an overflow of wings I am on board heavily.

I posted my lineup elsewhere, but here it is again:

Rozier 26/Smart 22/Larkin
Hayward 20/Brown 28
Leonard 34/Hayward 14/Semi
Tatum 30/Morris 18
Horford 30/Baynes 18/Theis
CB Draft 2016:
PG:Tony Parker/Mo Williams
SG:Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili
SF:Al Farouq-Aminu/Jared Dudley/Tony Snell
PF:Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
C: Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len