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Rozier FOR Sabonis + 2018 IND 2nd Rounder?

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Re: IF We "Sell High" On Rozier... Would You Make This Trade?
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2018, 07:49:55 AM »

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Where did “Scary Terry” come from?  It’s horrible and doesn’t even rhyme.  I’ve been seeing and hearing it a lot in the last few days.

Yeah it's an atrocious nickname. I've been seeing and hearing it too but refuse to use it myself. Rozier deserves better.
It's a TV reference from the show Rick and Morty.

Couldn't tell you anything more than that as I haven't seen the show.

Scary Terry is a cartoon parody of Freddy Krueger.



I met one of the writers from Rick and Morty one time.  I had never seen or heard of the show, so it made other people's reverence of him kind of odd. 

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Re: IF We "Sell High" On Rozier... Would You Make This Trade?
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2018, 08:32:57 AM »

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I think Rozier is the better player but we can't keep everyone and we need a good big man so I would do it.

Re: IF We "Sell High" On Rozier... Would You Make This Trade?
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2018, 09:25:42 AM »

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Rozier (and our pick #27, if necessary) for a first round pick in the 10-14 range that results in the drafting of Texas A&M center Robert Williams.

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2018, 09:26:44 AM »

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Nerlens Noel and DMC are unrestricted FAs. Maybe we could land one of them.

Sabonis is a quick big, with good handle and midrange jumper, and a bruiser but not the shotblocker the team needs.

Keep The Terrier (short for Terry Rozier).   

Re: IF We "Sell High" On Rozier... Would You Make This Trade?
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2018, 09:49:51 AM »

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Rozier (and our pick #27, if necessary) for a first round pick in the 10-14 range that results in the drafting of Texas A&M center Robert Williams.

Go after Mikal Bridges.
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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2018, 10:40:21 AM »

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Rozier (and our pick #27, if necessary) for a first round pick in the 10-14 range that results in the drafting of Texas A&M center Robert Williams.

Go after Mikal Bridges.
Why would we go after a 6'7" wing?

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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2018, 10:47:46 AM »

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http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=95741.msg2473224#msg2473224

I proposed this same trade in late March (see link above).

I like Terry a lot, he is more of a scoring point guard rather than a play making/assisting guard. Yes I know his assist numbers were pretty good in the Bucks series.

I think Sabonis fits more of a long term need for the C's - young capable big.  He would join our other two bigs under contract beyond this season:  Big Al and Daniel Theis.  Sabonis would eliminate the temptation to bring back either Baynes or Monroe - two flawed players who don't fit well with the new perimeter style game.

Indiana could use a point guard and they seem set at center with Myles Turner.
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Re: IF We "Sell High" On Rozier... Would You Make This Trade?
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2018, 10:50:43 AM »

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I'd trade Terry for Sabonis straight up. I think Sabonis is going to be pretty good and it balances out our roster and gives us an extra year of team control.

I don't think the Pacers would be interested, especially with Turner struggling so much in the playoffs and overall this season.

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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2018, 04:28:40 PM »

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It's funny how "good" returns for Terry include the new pick in the similar range where TR was drafted, and how everyone expects that the pick would be great and developed perfectly. Guys, TR at 16 is a steal which is hard to replicate.
I don't see your point.

Whoever you take with a pick in that range won't likely be as good as Rozier.

However, you will have cheap team control over them for 4 years compared to Rozier's 1.

That's why the pick, despite not returning an equal level player, still has similar value.
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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2018, 05:13:23 PM »

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It's funny how "good" returns for Terry include the new pick in the similar range where TR was drafted, and how everyone expects that the pick would be great and developed perfectly. Guys, TR at 16 is a steal which is hard to replicate.
I don't see your point.

Whoever you take with a pick in that range won't likely be as good as Rozier.

However, you will have cheap team control over them for 4 years compared to Rozier's 1.

That's why the pick, despite not returning an equal level player, still has similar value.
The point is that it is hard to get a player of TR qualities at that slot. Since we are planing to win the whole thing next year I would rather have him then some, who knows who, pg. He is proven to be at the very least a good backup pg.
We have a year more to explore possibilities.
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Re: IF We "Sell High" On Rozier... Would You Make This Trade?
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2018, 03:06:50 AM »

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Is there a team that would take rozier and kings/ or Memphis pick for a top 7 pick that year so we can draft a big with Potential?

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« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2018, 03:23:12 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2018, 03:41:46 AM »

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Any team that'd trade a top 3 pick for Kyrie?

That would be a major step backwards in the short term (while Horford and Hayward are still elite).

We are contenders with Kyrie.
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« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2018, 04:02:53 AM »

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Any team that'd trade a top 3 pick for Kyrie?
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« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2018, 04:11:36 PM »

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twist on the OP

How high in this draft can the Cs get with these packages

1. Rozier + #27 + Clipper pick

2. Rozier + Kings pick


Its tough to use precedent with NBA draft trades given the differnt tiers of talent in each class but last draft.

Lyles and #24 pick moved the Jazz to #13

Lyles is an interesting prospect but at that point he was 21 coming off of a solid 16mpg 6pt 3 rb season where he showed promise to some day be a modern starting PF.

Terry obviously has alot more value right now then Lyles did.

This logic would indicate that Terry + 27 should net the Cs at least a late lottery pick.

For every deal there must be a buyer. The Clippers have the 12th and 13th picks and could use a young PG. The Knicks at #9 might be to high to trade into

With that does Terry and the Kings pick spark any interest from the Knicks #9 or Magic at #5?

I doubt either makes a move that high in the draft but an argument could be made for it. Both teams will still be rebuilding and back in the lottery next year. If they do not feel the players they have available are franchise corner stones maybe picking up a starting PG and punting to next year makes sense.