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What scoring option will Jaylen Brown be on this team next year?

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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2018, 11:47:18 AM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

Oooh. Watch out, Max Kellerman. You may be out of a job soon.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2018, 11:54:00 AM »

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In this team, and the motion offense, I don't think there is even a need for a #1 scoring option.

But Jaylen on any decent lottery team would be averaging at least 20 PPG. He's clearly shown that any issues with his offense has been mitigated and shown absolutely no sense of concern.
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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2018, 12:10:16 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

Oooh. Watch out, Max Kellerman. You may be out of a job soon.
If I recall correctly, Ainge said - literally - that he's away from the team working on his running mechanics. If you have to change something as basic as the way you run because of an injury, you've officially got me concerned. But perhaps I'm just paranoid, it won't be the first time.
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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2018, 12:26:36 PM »

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I could be wrong, but weren't the Jazz one of the slowest teams in terms of pace last year with Hayward? I know the run and gun style tends to inflate the stats for some players in the league. 22ppg on good splits in a slow offense is pretty darn good.
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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2018, 12:38:18 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

That’s a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

The injury concerns me. The fact he’s maxing out every training and rehab option in his comeback does not. If you or I had a significant injury, we would be offered PT and an occupational therapist. Pro athletes that want to maximize their careers will get something more thorough. It’s not like he’s lurching around with major disfunction. This is to be sure he doesn’t reinjure himself or develop inefficiencies as he regains conditioning and restarts more intense work.

 

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2018, 01:04:17 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

Oooh. Watch out, Max Kellerman. You may be out of a job soon.
If I recall correctly, Ainge said - literally - that he's away from the team working on his running mechanics. If you have to change something as basic as the way you run because of an injury, you've officially got me concerned. But perhaps I'm just paranoid, it won't be the first time.

Iím with Koz on this. I tend to worry about our guys coming back from major injuries. Hope he returns 100%.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2018, 01:05:43 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

It would be worrisome to me if I knew it was because of the injury. The fact that Hayward has worked with this specialist in the past tells me it's likely he has/had some mechanical issues that pre-date the injury, and perhaps it's the time off that's requiring him to re-visit the specialist, not the physical status of the injury itself.

It certainly could be because of the injury, and I'd agree that's very concerning. I just haven't heard anything that made me think that it is, so I'm not concerned at this point.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2018, 01:06:32 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

Oooh. Watch out, Max Kellerman. You may be out of a job soon.
If I recall correctly, Ainge said - literally - that he's away from the team working on his running mechanics. If you have to change something as basic as the way you run because of an injury, you've officially got me concerned. But perhaps I'm just paranoid, it won't be the first time.

You donít recall correctly. Maybe thatís the issue. At no point did the article say there was an issue with his running mechanics.

What it did say is that heís seeing a running specialist, which is something whoís making more than a hundred million dollars to play basketball would do, in order to check that the injury isnít causing him to favor his leg or something.

But you said he has to ďrelearn how to run.Ē Which is patently ridiculous given what was actually written.

I mean heís probably seeing an orthopedist periodically too. Oh no! Has he broken his leg again?

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #68 on: April 24, 2018, 01:37:50 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

Oooh. Watch out, Max Kellerman. You may be out of a job soon.
If I recall correctly, Ainge said - literally - that he's away from the team working on his running mechanics. If you have to change something as basic as the way you run because of an injury, you've officially got me concerned. But perhaps I'm just paranoid, it won't be the first time.

You donít recall correctly. Maybe thatís the issue. At no point did the article say there was an issue with his running mechanics.

What it did say is that heís seeing a running specialist, which is something whoís making more than a hundred million dollars to play basketball would do, in order to check that the injury isnít causing him to favor his leg or something.

But you said he has to ďrelearn how to run.Ē Which is patently ridiculous given what was actually written.

I mean heís probably seeing an orthopedist periodically too. Oh no! Has he broken his leg again?
You're reading the article. I listened to the actual SportsHub interview.

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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2018, 01:48:57 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.

Oooh. Watch out, Max Kellerman. You may be out of a job soon.
If I recall correctly, Ainge said - literally - that he's away from the team working on his running mechanics. If you have to change something as basic as the way you run because of an injury, you've officially got me concerned. But perhaps I'm just paranoid, it won't be the first time.

You donít recall correctly. Maybe thatís the issue. At no point did the article say there was an issue with his running mechanics.

What it did say is that heís seeing a running specialist, which is something whoís making more than a hundred million dollars to play basketball would do, in order to check that the injury isnít causing him to favor his leg or something.

But you said he has to ďrelearn how to run.Ē Which is patently ridiculous given what was actually written.

I mean heís probably seeing an orthopedist periodically too. Oh no! Has he broken his leg again?
You're reading the article. I listened to the actual SportsHub interview.

https://twitter.com/AdamMKaufman/status/986979013464875018

"Working on his running mechanics" does not equal "relearning how to run."

Nor does "working on his running mechanics" even mean there's a problem with his mechanics.

Here is the non-hot-take quote in context:

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Ainge said the team is sending him to Indianapolis for the next phase of the rehab process to work with a leading specialist in running mechanics. Both the Celtics and Hayward have worked with the specialist before. Ainge added that he thinks Hayward is progressing nicely.

Show me where anyone identified a specific problem that is interfering with his recovery.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2018, 02:34:38 PM »

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Could we just start a Gordon Hayward thread for those concerned about his recovery?  This started as a thread on Jaylen Brown and it would be nice to stay on point.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2018, 02:47:43 PM »

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Could we just start a Gordon Hayward thread for those concerned about his recovery?  This started as a thread on Jaylen Brown and it would be nice to stay on point.

You're right, sorry about that. I have no idea how it derailed but I ended up being part of the problem.

As far as Brown, I could definitely see him as a #1 if he takes another leap. I was pretty skeptical on how much he could improve from where he was at mid-year, but his offensive game and confidence seem to be growing so fast I don't know any more.


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« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2018, 06:03:30 PM »

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So who thinks Jaylen Brown can put up another 30 point night against the Bucks in game 5 tonight?  I'm thinking the odds are at least 40% that he goes off for another 30+ based on the confidence with which he is playing now.  Minimum of 25 pts.

I think Brad is smart and will find a way to ride the hot hand.  We just need to let JB go off and try to limit Giannis to low percentage shooting and we can probably pull out this series.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2018, 03:34:33 PM »

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Jalen's shot has drastically improved and I believe he can be a legit go-to-scorer a la Kobe Bryant.

He may not have that Mamba mentality but he's got the athleticism and the shot now.

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« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2018, 04:26:17 PM »

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JB is one of my favorites maybe my favorite! Saying that IMO I don't think on a contender he is the #1 option ready at this point but hopefully I'm wrong. More work on his handle and understanding of what teams will do to him defensively will get him to the next level.