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What scoring option will Jaylen Brown be on this team next year?

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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2018, 05:03:39 PM »

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We must've overpaid Hayward if Tatum and Brown are balling up harder than expected.  ;D

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2018, 05:36:25 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.
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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2018, 05:54:38 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2018, 06:02:00 PM »

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Cannot wait to see all the ways Brad finds to spring this group.  And once the playoffs start, endless flexibility to find every opponent weak point and destroy it. So many weapons.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2018, 06:11:23 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

I love Haywsrd and think he will be a tremendous addition to this team, but yeah, he is pretty much a borderline All-Star. He averaged over 20 PPG only once 7 years in Utah, his TS% is a pretty average 56.3% for his career. He never averaged 6 RPG as a SF. Only once did he average over 4.1APG.

He will fit in seemlessly but given Jaylen's improvement arc and Hayward's possible need to ease into things, Jaylen could be this team's second scoring option next year.

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« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2018, 06:16:14 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.

It doesn't surprise or worry me (much) that he is working with a walking specialist.  I had hip replacement surgery in June and it is a daily effort to remind myself to walk correctly.  Your muscles want to compensate and create new "muscle memory" but you have to train your muscles to operate the way it was before the injury (or in my case before the deterioration) -- all as you concurrently strengthen.  For me it requires a constant consciousness about body movement that never was needed before.   Hayward having this training, I believe, is what is going to allow him to return to his original, natural form.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2018, 06:32:38 PM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

I love Haywsrd and think he will be a tremendous addition to this team, but yeah, he is pretty much a borderline All-Star. He averaged over 20 PPG only once 7 years in Utah, his TS% is a pretty average 56.3% for his career. He never averaged 6 RPG as a SF. Only once did he average over 4.1APG.

He will fit in seemlessly but given Jaylen's improvement arc and Hayward's possible need to ease into things, Jaylen could be this team's second scoring option next year.

Haywards best year so far was a solid all star year, but I do think you are right in that Hayward him self is more like a solid  #2 option then a number one. Hes not a truly  ťlite offensive player. Add in hes going to basically have gone a year without being able to work on his game and he'll be coming of an injury and he may regress slightly. Even then I think its more likely that next year Jaylen will be the third option, but I dont think you can rule out that Jaylen over takes him next year ir the year after

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2018, 10:14:28 AM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

I love Haywsrd and think he will be a tremendous addition to this team, but yeah, he is pretty much a borderline All-Star. He averaged over 20 PPG only once 7 years in Utah, his TS% is a pretty average 56.3% for his career. He never averaged 6 RPG as a SF. Only once did he average over 4.1APG.

He will fit in seemlessly but given Jaylen's improvement arc and Hayward's possible need to ease into things, Jaylen could be this team's second scoring option next year.

Haywards best year so far was a solid all star year, but I do think you are right in that Hayward him self is more like a solid  #2 option then a number one. Hes not a truly  ťlite offensive player. Add in hes going to basically have gone a year without being able to work on his game and he'll be coming of an injury and he may regress slightly. Even then I think its more likely that next year Jaylen will be the third option, but I dont think you can rule out that Jaylen over takes him next year ir the year after

Yeah, can't argue this enough: we are forgetting how good Hayward is.

The year before he joined us, he averaged 22ppg, shooting about 40% from 3 (on 5 attempts), 50% from 2, and 84% from the line. He was 19th in the entire league in offensive win shares, and 18th in offensive box plus/minus. In other words he was a really, really good offensive player, someone who could score a high volume of points efficiently.

Keep in mind I'm only talking about his scoring. He also happens to be a good passer, ball-handler (Stevens was thinking to use him as the primary ball-handler on the second unit this year), and a versatile defender.

I'm super optimistic about Brown and Tatum. But don't let the passage of time dim your memory of how good Hayward is.
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Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2018, 10:16:09 AM »

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Not sure it matters who is the #1 scoring option. Honestly, I don't think it matters to any of the Celtic players too.

Everyone will get their chance in various matchups. What matters is that, as a team, they can be one of the best (if not the best) offensive teams in the league.

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« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2018, 10:31:26 AM »

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He will be pretty good in SA

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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2018, 10:31:48 AM »

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He will be pretty good in SA
Watch your tongue!  ;D

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2018, 10:31:48 AM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.
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« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2018, 10:58:49 AM »

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I'm going to put it out there right now -- Jaylen Brown has the upside to become the next Demar Derozan as far as a scoring option and the shooting guard position.  He has blossomed in the playoffs and he could become an all-star selection as a SG pretty soon.

That being said, it's hard to see him becoming the #1 scoring option when both Kyrie and Hayward will be returning healthy next year.  Also Tatum will be on his second season.  If both our kids continue to develop, I could see a GS Warriors situation though.  Who do you focus on stopping - Kyrie, Hayward, Brown, Tatum?  And Horford will hurt you too if you leave him open behind the stripe, or he'll just pass the ball to the open man if you close down.

I'm loving our core.  And honestly I'm thinking Brown has become untouchable unless it's Anthony Davis coming back on the other side.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2018, 11:00:57 AM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.

Re: Can Jaylen Brown be a #1 scoring option as early as next year?(Poll)
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2018, 11:16:01 AM »

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It's hard to remember, but Hayward was an elite wing last year. He was not some fringe all-star, he was a superb scorer and good at pretty much everything else. Even if it takes time for him to come back to 100%, the expectation should be that he's going to be 2nd to Kyrie in terms of being a primary scorer and primary ball handler next season.
Except that's pretty much exactly what he is, a one-time allstar who was a ho-hum 20 ppg scorer in heavy minutes for the most part of his productive career.

Also, the fact that he's seeing a foot specialist right now that's going to teach him how to run should give you a major pause.

Thatís a big reach, especially considering the fact that the only other NBA player I know who saw a walking/running specialist to manage the way he runs is Stephen Curry.
Don't know about Curry. But personally, when they're telling me that the guy who snapped his angle now needs help with the way he runs, I'm concerned.

The team also said the both Hayward and the Celtics have previously worked with this particular running specialist. So, if there is a concern, I doubt it is explicitly related to the broken ankle. Hayward may have overcome a hitch in his run in the past and needs to re-learn to overcome the hitch since he went a long time without running.
Sure. And it's not worrisome to you that he needs to relearn how to run because of a traumatic injury? That's not "business as usual" to me.
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