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Re: Did NBA agenda just show its' ugly head?
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2018, 12:40:06 PM »

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The NBA rule for charging doesn't require no movement only that the defender has established a legal guarding position. You can be moving and be in a straight line position in front of the offensive player.
You can't have your legs three feet apart and be leaning though. Which is the whole point here.

Obviously we would have all bet our life savings you would have said it was a good call though lol
You are the one that is chiding people for not knowing the rule and it seems apparent you don't know the rule as you keep changing your argument when challenged. 


a. A dribbler shall not (1) charge into an opponent who has established a legal guarding position, or (2) attempt to dribble between two opponents, or (3) attempt to dribble between an opponent and a boundary, where sufficient space is not avail-able for illegal contact to be avoided.
 b. If a defender is able to establish a legal position in the straight line path of the dribbler, the dribbler must avoid contact by changing direction or ending his dribble.
 c. The dribbler must be in control of his body at all times. If illegal contact occurs, the responsibility is on the dribbler.
 PENALTY: The offender is assessed an offensive foul. There is no team foul. The ball is awarded to the offended team on the sideline nearest the spot where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended.
 EXCEPTION: Rule 3--Section I--a.
 d. If a dribbler has sufficient space to have his head and shoulders in advance of his defender, the responsibility for illegal contact is on the defender.
 e. If a dribbler has established a straight line path, a defender may not crowd him out of that path.
 PENALTY: The defender shall be assessed a personal foul and a team foul. If the penalty is not in effect, the offended team is awarded the ball on the sideline nearest the spot where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended. If the penalty is in effect, one free throw attempt plus a penalty free throw attempt is awarded.

So a legal position includes your legs 3 feet apart and leaning?  Funny to paste the rules that have nothing to do with that and act like you have accomplished something. If your argument is that you can spread out your legs as far as you want someone like Giannis could literally block off 90% of the paint.

In the future, if you are gonna paste a rule in at least make it address what I am saying please.
If you really want to paste in rules the key point is legal guarding position. http://www.basketballwiki.net/index.php?title=Legal_Guarding_Position

Leaning away from your opponent with your legs spread is not a legal guarding position.
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Re: Did NBA agenda just show its' ugly head?
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2018, 01:16:45 PM »

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The NBA rule for charging doesn't require no movement only that the defender has established a legal guarding position. You can be moving and be in a straight line position in front of the offensive player.
You can't have your legs three feet apart and be leaning though. Which is the whole point here.

Obviously we would have all bet our life savings you would have said it was a good call though lol
You are the one that is chiding people for not knowing the rule and it seems apparent you don't know the rule as you keep changing your argument when challenged. 


a. A dribbler shall not (1) charge into an opponent who has established a legal guarding position, or (2) attempt to dribble between two opponents, or (3) attempt to dribble between an opponent and a boundary, where sufficient space is not avail-able for illegal contact to be avoided.
 b. If a defender is able to establish a legal position in the straight line path of the dribbler, the dribbler must avoid contact by changing direction or ending his dribble.
 c. The dribbler must be in control of his body at all times. If illegal contact occurs, the responsibility is on the dribbler.
 PENALTY: The offender is assessed an offensive foul. There is no team foul. The ball is awarded to the offended team on the sideline nearest the spot where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended.
 EXCEPTION: Rule 3--Section I--a.
 d. If a dribbler has sufficient space to have his head and shoulders in advance of his defender, the responsibility for illegal contact is on the defender.
 e. If a dribbler has established a straight line path, a defender may not crowd him out of that path.
 PENALTY: The defender shall be assessed a personal foul and a team foul. If the penalty is not in effect, the offended team is awarded the ball on the sideline nearest the spot where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended. If the penalty is in effect, one free throw attempt plus a penalty free throw attempt is awarded.

So a legal position includes your legs 3 feet apart and leaning?  Funny to paste the rules that have nothing to do with that and act like you have accomplished something. If your argument is that you can spread out your legs as far as you want someone like Giannis could literally block off 90% of the paint.

In the future, if you are gonna paste a rule in at least make it address what I am saying please.
If you really want to paste in rules the key point is legal guarding position. http://www.basketballwiki.net/index.php?title=Legal_Guarding_Position

Leaning away from your opponent with your legs spread is not a legal guarding position.
facing your opponent with both feet on the floor.  No mention of how far apart legs can be and as long as his body is above his feet, it is perfectly legal. 

Perhaps you didn't actually read what a legal guarding position is.

Re: Did NBA agenda just show its' ugly head?
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2018, 01:26:15 PM »

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The NBA rule for charging doesn't require no movement only that the defender has established a legal guarding position. You can be moving and be in a straight line position in front of the offensive player.
You can't have your legs three feet apart and be leaning though. Which is the whole point here.

Obviously we would have all bet our life savings you would have said it was a good call though lol
You are the one that is chiding people for not knowing the rule and it seems apparent you don't know the rule as you keep changing your argument when challenged. 


a. A dribbler shall not (1) charge into an opponent who has established a legal guarding position, or (2) attempt to dribble between two opponents, or (3) attempt to dribble between an opponent and a boundary, where sufficient space is not avail-able for illegal contact to be avoided.
 b. If a defender is able to establish a legal position in the straight line path of the dribbler, the dribbler must avoid contact by changing direction or ending his dribble.
 c. The dribbler must be in control of his body at all times. If illegal contact occurs, the responsibility is on the dribbler.
 PENALTY: The offender is assessed an offensive foul. There is no team foul. The ball is awarded to the offended team on the sideline nearest the spot where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended.
 EXCEPTION: Rule 3--Section I--a.
 d. If a dribbler has sufficient space to have his head and shoulders in advance of his defender, the responsibility for illegal contact is on the defender.
 e. If a dribbler has established a straight line path, a defender may not crowd him out of that path.
 PENALTY: The defender shall be assessed a personal foul and a team foul. If the penalty is not in effect, the offended team is awarded the ball on the sideline nearest the spot where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended. If the penalty is in effect, one free throw attempt plus a penalty free throw attempt is awarded.

So a legal position includes your legs 3 feet apart and leaning?  Funny to paste the rules that have nothing to do with that and act like you have accomplished something. If your argument is that you can spread out your legs as far as you want someone like Giannis could literally block off 90% of the paint.

In the future, if you are gonna paste a rule in at least make it address what I am saying please.
If you really want to paste in rules the key point is legal guarding position. http://www.basketballwiki.net/index.php?title=Legal_Guarding_Position

Leaning away from your opponent with your legs spread is not a legal guarding position.
facing your opponent with both feet on the floor.  No mention of how far apart legs can be and as long as his body is above his feet, it is perfectly legal. 

Perhaps you didn't actually read what a legal guarding position is.

The legal guarding position extends vertically above him (cylinder) from the floor to the ceiling. He may raise his arms and hands above his head or jump vertically but he must maintain them in a vertical position inside the imaginary cylinder.

So the legs must be vertical, If they are splayed out like Korver's were they are not in the vertical cylinder.

Additionally leaning away from does not equal facing?

Secondly, are you really trying to say you can have your legs completed stretched out 3 feet apart and get a charge. We all knew that wasn't the case when we were kids. Seriously man, what are you doing here? It seems like you are just being obnoxious and not even addressing what i am posting.

Re: Did NBA agenda just show its' ugly head?
« Reply #78 on: April 20, 2018, 03:11:21 PM »

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Could this man take a charge with this legs like this?



Lol.. this is what we are arguing about.

Also I will add in for the purposes of this argument he will be leaning away
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