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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #75 on: April 21, 2018, 10:26:42 AM »

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I think Rozier is a good player, and a good upside. But in a world where we dont have Kyrie and we have AD, I think its Smart who fits that team better.

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« Reply #76 on: April 21, 2018, 10:39:42 AM »

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I think Rozier is a good player, and a good upside. But in a world where we dont have Kyrie and we have AD, I think its Smart who fits that team better.

I would want Rozier. Marcus is a better distributor but AD needs shooters.

But, NOP already is running a 3-guard starting five. Replacing AD with Kyrie doesnít help.


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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #77 on: April 21, 2018, 12:09:49 PM »

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I think Rozier is a good player, and a good upside. But in a world where we dont have Kyrie and we have AD, I think its Smart who fits that team better.

I would want Rozier. Marcus is a better distributor but AD needs shooters.

But, NOP already is running a 3-guard starting five. Replacing AD with Kyrie doesnít help.

Mega-Blockbuster 3-way deal with Kyrie going to SAS, Kawhi going to NOP, and Davis coming here  ;D

Why would SAS choose Kyrie over Davis in trading away Kawhi? I have no idea!

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2018, 07:11:13 PM »

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To answer the OP's question, not really... Kyrie IS injury prone and requires a high quality borderline starter to play behind him for the 20 games he'll miss over an average season.

I think Marcus Smart becomes expendable.

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« Reply #79 on: April 22, 2018, 02:13:50 PM »

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No lol. Stop this madness.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2018, 03:19:59 PM »

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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2018, 03:22:11 PM »

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« Reply #82 on: April 22, 2018, 03:23:08 PM »

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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #83 on: April 23, 2018, 07:05:32 PM »

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If I had to give up either Tatum, Brown, or Irving for Leonard......

...give up Irving (injury prone) and roll the dice.

Play Tatum at the point (he will have to work on his dribbling) as his high IQ and underrated passing ability and size will make him a mismatch nightmare.

Hayward at the 2, Brown at the 3, and Leonard at the 4, Horford at the 5.

Height wise we'd be somewhat smallish but it's ok in the EAST but length wise we'd be pretty solid all across the board.

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« Reply #84 on: April 23, 2018, 08:02:01 PM »

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His play since the beginning of March has taken my mind to a weird place - a place where Kyrie is expendable.  Is he?  What if we could package him with some other assets (NOT Jaylen or Jason) to get Anthony Davis?  Just imagine this lineup:

Do you think that after last night?

Of course ;D. Time to rid ourselves of Kyrie #TradeThatBum LOL ;D.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2018, 10:22:02 AM »

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I would pose the question the other way around: Does Rozier's play make Rozier highly tradeable?

I see no evidence yet the Celtics are a better team with Rozier replacing Irving. Especially considering the small sample size.

The team that started off the season is still the best performing team this year. And that was without Hayward and Morris--for awhile.

With the development of Brown and Tatum, and the return of Irving and Hayward, this will be a 60 win team next year. But the competition, namely the Sixers, will be much better, too. And the Celtics have no answer for Embiid. Their weakness remains the lack of length and rim protection up front. 

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« Reply #86 on: April 24, 2018, 10:31:09 AM »

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I would pose the question the other way around: Does Rozier's play make Rozier highly tradeable?

I see no evidence yet the Celtics are a better team with Rozier replacing Irving. Especially considering the small sample size.

The team that started off the season is still the best performing team this year. And that was without Hayward and Morris--for awhile.

With the development of Brown and Tatum, and the return of Irving and Hayward, this will be a 60 win team next year. But the competition, namely the Sixers, will be much better, too. And the Celtics have no answer for Embiid. Their weakness remains the lack of length and rim protection up front.
To be honest, we've defended Embiid pretty well so far. In 4 games against us he averages 18.8ppg on shooting splits of .406/.133 which is very acceptable

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« Reply #87 on: April 24, 2018, 03:36:17 PM »

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I see no evidence yet the Celtics are a better team with Rozier replacing Irving. Especially considering the small sample size.

Of course theyíre not. The defensive potential is higher, but overall the team isnít going to be better by losing a star.

But thatís not the question. Rather, would the team better with, say, Kawhi + Rozier or Kyrie + Rozier.


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« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2018, 04:39:11 PM »

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I see no evidence yet the Celtics are a better team with Rozier replacing Irving. Especially considering the small sample size.

Of course theyíre not. The defensive potential is higher, but overall the team isnít going to be better by losing a star.

But thatís not the question. Rather, would the team better with, say, Kawhi + Rozier or Kyrie + Rozier.

Kawhi is the better player, but I think you need to take into account the rest of the roster and see we have Brown, Tatum, Hayward, and Morris to play Kawhiís minutes.

Are you confident Rozier can be the starting PG on a contender? We know Irving is a champion (as is Kawhi) and have more faith in our talented wings than a Rozier-Leonard tandem.

So the real question is who would you rather have: Irving-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford or some starting lineup with Kawhi and Rozier and one of Hayward/Tatum coming off the bench?
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« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2018, 04:45:29 PM »

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I see no evidence yet the Celtics are a better team with Rozier replacing Irving. Especially considering the small sample size.

Of course theyíre not. The defensive potential is higher, but overall the team isnít going to be better by losing a star.

But thatís not the question. Rather, would the team better with, say, Kawhi + Rozier or Kyrie + Rozier.

Kawhi is the better player, but I think you need to take into account the rest of the roster and see we have Brown, Tatum, Hayward, and Morris to play Kawhiís minutes.

Are you confident Rozier can be the starting PG on a contender? We know Irving is a champion (as is Kawhi) and have more faith in our talented wings than a Rozier-Leonard tandem.

So the real question is who would you rather have: Irving-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford or some starting lineup with Kawhi and Rozier and one of Hayward/Tatum coming off the bench?

Why are people so convinced on kicking Kyrie out the door? As much as I like Kawhi, his integrity and his will to play through adversity has shown me that he isn't as quiet and peaceful as his demeanor shows. Even if his agent advised him not to say anything, the fact that he has been death-fully silent underneath all this scrutiny should raise some eyebrows.
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