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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2018, 06:07:12 PM »

Offline keevsnick

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No, Rozier does not make one of the best shot creators in the NBA expendable. And we aren't trading Kyrie. Rozier has been great, hes still not a good finished or really even a good point guard, hes a 3 and d guard. Let not get crazy here.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2018, 06:12:30 PM »

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I believe the question is, does he make Smart expendable?
Right now I could see him being a great 6th man. Irving, Brown and he could be an outstanding 3 guard rotation.
That being said, he's not even close to in the league with Irving. Irving is a top 10 player and maybe the best point guard in the league. Terry is a fine young player, but Let's not get crazy.

The OP isnt saying that Rozier equals Kyrie.

Hes asking if Rozier + whoever we trade Kyrie for is better than Kyrie + Rozier.


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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2018, 06:17:23 PM »

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I believe the question is, does he make Smart expendable?
Right now I could see him being a great 6th man. Irving, Brown and he could be an outstanding 3 guard rotation.
That being said, he's not even close to in the league with Irving. Irving is a top 10 player and maybe the best point guard in the league. Terry is a fine young player, but Let's not get crazy.

The OP isnt saying that Rozier equals Kyrie.

Hes asking if Rozier + whoever we trade Kyrie for is better than Kyrie + Rozier.

It all depends on whether the Celtics can get fair market value for Kyrie. If they're getting someone like Kawhi or another available top 10ish player, then yeah you can trade Kyrie. Otherwise, no, they shouldn't.

I don't think Rozier will be with the Celtics for too long. He knows he's good enough to start.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2018, 08:00:03 PM »

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Irving is a Top 5 Player in this League knee or no knee
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2018, 08:03:25 PM »

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Hmmm can I get back to you on that..........actually you know what I don't need to think bout this......the answer is No.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2018, 08:40:57 PM »

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Irving is a Top 5 Player in this League knee or no knee

By any objective standard, this isn't true. 


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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2018, 08:50:26 PM »

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I agree with Roy aside from Hayward being 6th man. I think were all forgetting how good he is. Hes top 20. Tatum and brown are not there yet. One of them comes off the bench.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2018, 08:53:22 PM »

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Irving is a Top 5 Player in this League knee or no knee

No he isn't. Top-15, yes. And I love Irving, but being realistic here.
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2018, 08:58:32 PM »

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I agree with Roy aside from Hayward being 6th man. I think were all forgetting how good he is. Hes top 20. Tatum and brown are not there yet. One of them comes off the bench.

Well, it's the old school philosophy that you don't always start your best five players.  I did compare him to Hondo, after all.  It would be unconventional, but the Celtics did it for large chunks of Havlicek's and McHale's careers, and Manu is the prototype for the modern era.  That team would basically be unbeatable.


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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2018, 09:12:19 PM »

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I agree with Roy aside from Hayward being 6th man. I think were all forgetting how good he is. Hes top 20. Tatum and brown are not there yet. One of them comes off the bench.

Well, it's the old school philosophy that you don't always start your best five players.  I did compare him to Hondo, after all.  It would be unconventional, but the Celtics did it for large chunks of Havlicek's and McHale's careers, and Manu is the prototype for the modern era.  That team would basically be unbeatable.

I like that.

Keep a "secret weapon" and all-star to be one of the first guys off the bench to keep the rhythm and beat going!  8)

And our Starting 5 would still be extremely good anyways.
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2018, 09:22:03 PM »

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Irving is a Top 5 Player in this League knee or no knee

How is that?
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2018, 09:29:10 PM »

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Like always, it depends what the return is.

Would we be better with a starting lineup including Davis in place of Kyrie? Probably. Kawhi in place of Kyrie? Probably.

Theres 0% chance the Pels do that trade, though. The Spurs might.

Spurs would take Rozier and Brown in a blink of an eye
I'd hang up the phone faster than the blink of an eye if the Spurs called with that offer

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2018, 09:31:51 PM »

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And yes Rozier makes Kyrie far more expendable than he was. Plus you have to remember that once he gets healthy we'll also have the mighty Marcus Smart too. That's a pretty good PG combo.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2018, 09:55:36 PM »

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And yes Rozier makes Kyrie far more expendable than he was. Plus you have to remember that once he gets healthy we'll also have the mighty Marcus Smart too. That's a pretty good PG combo.

Yeah, I would feel totally comfortable moving forward with a Rozier/Smart combo (heck, keep Larkin if you want to for depth). Maybe Bird even makes a partial Rozier-style jump.

And, of course you make either deal if you're Ainge. Kyrie for AD isn't happening, but Kyrie for DPOY superstar Kawhi would be pretty amazing. SAS can have multiple non-SAC picks, too.

I don't know if Rozier will continue this run, but I always thought that if he could just gain a little more body control then he could be dangerous. His ability to rebound, not turn the ball over, hit the 3 and get to the rim, as well as defend with an AB like tenacity make him too good to let go for nothing.

I thought Terry might make Brown expendable (and I LOVE Brown), but I hardly want to give him up. One thing's for sure - everything's coming up Milhouse in the Ainge asset department right now!

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable / tradeable?
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2018, 10:55:41 PM »

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Two different type players. Both bring something to the table. Rozier is becoming a complete player. Make Kyrie tradable? Hmmm...What is the time frame?