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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2018, 12:53:14 PM »

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Don't tempt me with A Davis deal

Davis and Pelicans are playing well right now. He is not going anywhere unless they lose 4 straight to the blazers or get cleaned up next round

These are my thoughts as well. The whole “Davis will inevitably be traded” narrative seems to be a thing of the past if NO continues to do so well.
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2018, 12:56:23 PM »

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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2018, 01:13:36 PM »

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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2018, 01:16:16 PM »

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Other way round. 

Rozier's gonna bring us some nice value in a trade this summer or next February.
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2018, 01:24:21 PM »

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Other way round. 

Rozier's gonna bring us some nice value in a trade this summer or next February.

I'm on the side of Nickagneta that Rozier is such an important player in a race for the Championship next year that you'd rather keep him than trade him for assets (like picks, young players). Unless of course you could trade him (with other pieces) for an All Star.
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2018, 01:45:22 PM »

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Like always, it depends what the return is.

Would we be better with a starting lineup including Davis in place of Kyrie? Probably. Kawhi in place of Kyrie? Probably.

There’s 0% chance the Pels do that trade, though. The Spurs might.


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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2018, 01:52:32 PM »

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Like always, it depends what the return is.

Would we be better with a starting lineup including Davis in place of Kyrie? Probably. Kawhi in place of Kyrie? Probably.

There’s 0% chance the Pels do that trade, though. The Spurs might.

Spurs would take Rozier and Brown in a blink of an eye

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2018, 01:54:49 PM »

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Other way round. 

Rozier's gonna bring us some nice value in a trade this summer or next February.

only value worthwhile to the Celts is a lotto pick

Unless a team with a recent top 10 draft pick wants Rozier badly

no point of Celts trading for a 10-15 million dollar a year salary player

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2018, 01:56:11 PM »

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Again its either Rozier helps this team win a championship or Kyrie health is in limbo...that makes Kyrie expendable or unable to play


Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2018, 02:03:39 PM »

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But I am not offering Terry and Jaylen, I am offering Kyrie straight up for Kawhi.

Who would you rather?  Irving or Leonard?

This is just a theoretical question/discussion (we have time to kill before next game)

Both are on identical contracts: 20 mill next year, player option for 21 mill the following year.

Irving is 9 months younger, both came into league the same year.

Irving has had 3 surgeries on same knee, Kawhi has bad tendons in his quad and maybe an attitude issue.

KI career:  2 pt .493  3 pt .386 FT .875
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Who completes the rest of the squad?

An offensive gunslinger or a two way player (while trusting point guard to Smart and Terry)?
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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2018, 02:25:32 PM »

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We take this team as far as possible this year (still say we can make the NBA finals with some luck), and get healthy/leave roster alone for next season, with possibility of adding a 7' pogo stick defender who can block shots and finish plays with vicious dunks.  Like Theis, only bigger.

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
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But I am not offering Terry and Jaylen, I am offering Kyrie straight up for Kawhi.

Who would you rather?  Irving or Leonard?

This is just a theoretical question/discussion (we have time to kill before next game)

Both are on identical contracts: 20 mill next year, player option for 21 mill the following year.

Irving is 9 months younger, both came into league the same year.

Irving has had 3 surgeries on same knee, Kawhi has bad tendons in his quad and maybe an attitude issue.

KI career:  2 pt .493  3 pt .386 FT .875
KL career: 2 pt .537  3 pt .386  FT .846

Who completes the rest of the squad?

An offensive gunslinger or a two way player (while trusting point guard to Smart and Terry)?

It’s pure fantasy, but I’d do a trade of Kawhi for Kyrie.

Horford
Tatum
Kawhi
Brown
Rozier

6th man: Hayward

Could we sell Hayward on being the next John Havlicek?  I think that overall, that’s a better team than we have now.  The defense would be 2008 Celts level.

That team


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Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2018, 02:33:12 PM »

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But I am not offering Terry and Jaylen, I am offering Kyrie straight up for Kawhi.

Who would you rather?  Irving or Leonard?

This is just a theoretical question/discussion (we have time to kill before next game)

Both are on identical contracts: 20 mill next year, player option for 21 mill the following year.

Irving is 9 months younger, both came into league the same year.

Irving has had 3 surgeries on same knee, Kawhi has bad tendons in his quad and maybe an attitude issue.

KI career:  2 pt .493  3 pt .386 FT .875
KL career: 2 pt .537  3 pt .386  FT .846

Who completes the rest of the squad?

An offensive gunslinger or a two way player (while trusting point guard to Smart and Terry)?

It’s pure fantasy, but I’d do a trade of Kawhi for Kyrie.

Horford
Tatum
Kawhi
Brown
Rozier

6th man: Hayward

Could we sell Hayward on being the next John Havlicek?  I think that overall, that’s a better team than we have now.  The defense would be 2008 Celts level.

That team

A 30 million dollar a year 6th man??  ;D

Re: Does Rozier make Kyrie expendable?
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2018, 05:36:14 PM »

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I believe the question is, does he make Smart expendable?
Right now I could see him being a great 6th man. Irving, Brown and he could be an outstanding 3 guard rotation.
That being said, he's not even close to in the league with Irving. Irving is a top 10 player and maybe the best point guard in the league. Terry is a fine young player, but Let's not get crazy.